HELP, friend had accident, is on phone with me
12-31-07, 03:18 AM
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Were you in NY? Did it ever occur to you that different jurisdictions have different laws?
NY had a pure comparative negligence rule for a time--may still. Plaintiff can recover
no matter what her fault, her recovery is just reduced in proportion to her fault.
And since when is a cop a final authority on the law--they are the last people I would
trust in this matter.
Trying to get cash out of a giant insurance company regardless of fault isn't being a ******bag
it is just having a good hustle as far as I'm concerned. You all can speculate as to what you think
the outcome should be--I hope this chick gets some cash however unlikely it may be. Maybe
some folks would roll over for a taxi but I would hope a NYer wouldn't--
NY had a pure comparative negligence rule for a time--may still. Plaintiff can recover
no matter what her fault, her recovery is just reduced in proportion to her fault.
And since when is a cop a final authority on the law--they are the last people I would
trust in this matter.
Trying to get cash out of a giant insurance company regardless of fault isn't being a ******bag
it is just having a good hustle as far as I'm concerned. You all can speculate as to what you think
the outcome should be--I hope this chick gets some cash however unlikely it may be. Maybe
some folks would roll over for a taxi but I would hope a NYer wouldn't--
12-31-07, 04:37 AM
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12-31-07, 06:26 AM
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Exactly how do we determine the cab drivers fault? Bike Chick can protest all she wants that he was going "wicked fast" but where is the evidence?
The only fact present are that she, by admission, had run a red light. I'd say case closed.
A valuable, yet unfortunate lesson.
The only fact present are that she, by admission, had run a red light. I'd say case closed.
A valuable, yet unfortunate lesson.
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12-31-07, 06:34 AM
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This is mostly unrelated to the thread - sorry - but I hear in some foreign countries the driver is ALWAYS at fault when in a collision with a cyclist, no matter what the circumstances. It's a good idea if you think about it - because while a cyclist will usually get hurt pretty bad, fault or no fault, it sure as hell encourages the driver to watch the F out for us maniacs on two wheels.
at least i remember reading that when i took drivers ed in high school...we have rule of the road here. I'm assuming this isnt the same in NY?
12-31-07, 07:31 AM
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12-31-07, 07:49 AM
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Exactly how do we determine the cab drivers fault? Bike Chick can protest all she wants that he was going "wicked fast" but where is the evidence?
The only fact present are that she, by admission, had run a red light. I'd say case closed.
A valuable, yet unfortunate lesson.
The only fact present are that she, by admission, had run a red light. I'd say case closed.
A valuable, yet unfortunate lesson.
The level of immaturity, personal irresponsibility, and sense of entitlement on BFSSFG is simply shocking. It's time for you kids to grow up and realize that you are responsible for your actions and there are actually consequences to those actions.
12-31-07, 08:17 AM
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No matter how much you hate someone, if it's not their fault then they shouldn't shoulder the blame. Probably the greatest mark of maturity is when you can acknowledge when your enemies are at fault and when they aren't. Otherwise, what's to stop justice from being further subjective and open to personal interpretation?
12-31-07, 08:24 AM
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I am glad your friend is ok. It sounds like she got out of this one cheap, IMO. If all you loose in a car-cyclist collision is a bike, I would count myself lucky.
12-31-07, 08:35 AM
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lol, pops, lighten up. I agree with you. I was just making a tongue in cheek joke about the general population on this board, and where they hear these kinds of things from. Im sorry i didnt let you know i was joking, i guess it wouldve ruined it for me.
to let my serious opinion be known: OP's friend made a no no running a sketchy light. She doesnt deserve to have a new bike paid for, unless her state has some law set up for cyclist liability as previously discussed. BAD OP's friend. You should be more cautious!!
Oh, and if you dont like me, just put me on ignore and forget me. big deal. i dont even see how what i said was insulting to you at all. so, whatever.
to let my serious opinion be known: OP's friend made a no no running a sketchy light. She doesnt deserve to have a new bike paid for, unless her state has some law set up for cyclist liability as previously discussed. BAD OP's friend. You should be more cautious!!
Oh, and if you dont like me, just put me on ignore and forget me. big deal. i dont even see how what i said was insulting to you at all. so, whatever.
12-31-07, 08:59 AM
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lol, pops, lighten up. I agree with you. I was just making a tongue in cheek joke about the general population on this board, and where they hear these kinds of things from. Im sorry i didnt let you know i was joking, i guess it wouldve ruined it for me.
to let my serious opinion be known: OP's friend made a no no running a sketchy light. She doesnt deserve to have a new bike paid for, unless her state has some law set up for cyclist liability as previously discussed. BAD OP's friend. You should be more cautious!!
Oh, and if you dont like me, just put me on ignore and forget me. big deal. i dont even see how what i said was insulting to you at all. so, whatever.
to let my serious opinion be known: OP's friend made a no no running a sketchy light. She doesnt deserve to have a new bike paid for, unless her state has some law set up for cyclist liability as previously discussed. BAD OP's friend. You should be more cautious!!
Oh, and if you dont like me, just put me on ignore and forget me. big deal. i dont even see how what i said was insulting to you at all. so, whatever.
Seriously, why be a troll?
12-31-07, 09:40 AM
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She should try her best to get what she can. No one can compare their situation to her's as the out come of every situation is different, and on the "moral" side of this discussion do you think the cabby would be acting any differently if she had the green light and he flew through the red? hell no, he'd be the same ****ing prick he is today. I also think what she could have done is no longer the issue as it's already done 
kaiju-velo has the right idea, just tell her to try to do what she can and no matter what she not only came out of this alive and uninjured but she also learned a lesson, she knows what it is so I wont mention it cough! stop at red lights! cough! cough!
kaiju-velo has the right idea, just tell her to try to do what she can and no matter what she not only came out of this alive and uninjured but she also learned a lesson, she knows what it is so I wont mention it cough! stop at red lights! cough! cough!
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12-31-07, 04:47 PM
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I guess I'm confused here. Did she actually blow through a red light, or did she start going through on a green that had changed to red by the time she got hit?
I've been in too many situations where the light doesn't last long enough for me to get even halfway across the intersection before the light's turned red for me to automatically assume that the OP's friend did not start off having the right of way.
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I've been in too many situations where the light doesn't last long enough for me to get even halfway across the intersection before the light's turned red for me to automatically assume that the OP's friend did not start off having the right of way.
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12-31-07, 05:24 PM
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yeah, what exactly was the situation with the light? It could be anything.
I know I've had one close call where I saw the other light was yellow and so mine was gonna turn green, so I was going full speed just entering the intersection as it turned green, and it just so happened that a car going the other direction didn't stop for the yellow/red and I almost got into a crash.
I know I've had one close call where I saw the other light was yellow and so mine was gonna turn green, so I was going full speed just entering the intersection as it turned green, and it just so happened that a car going the other direction didn't stop for the yellow/red and I almost got into a crash.