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    Boutique items....?

    Warning: This is a semi-rant.

    Rode past a bike shop this afternoon (will not mention name) and decided to stop in to see if they had something: a dropped bar for track, in steel in 42cm. After a brief look around, the guy comes out and says some mumbo-jumbo, recommends another close by shop and hits me with this phrase: "...that shop will have little boutique items like that."

    Question from me: When is a steel track bar a boutique item?

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    i think "boutique" is "niche", like honjo fenders, campy SR, and lightweight wheels (the brand)

    My favorite shop in the world doesn'tcarry track stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodri9o View Post
    Question from me: When is a steel track bar a boutique item?
    When 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the cycling world needs or wants them.
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    It's probably worthwhile here to examine the connotations of "boutique." It doesn't mean the same thing as "niche." Coming from the world of photography where **** like Leicas are collected at absurd prices, the term boutique kind of makes my skin crawl. To me, it indicates a certain state of mind with the buyer. Specifically, it's the state of priorities in which one places collecting and polishing gear above actually using it. I dislike this.

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    from wiki

    A boutique, from the French word for "shop," is a small shopping outlet, especially one that specialises in elite and fashionable items

    from onlike dictionary

    b. A special area of demand for a product or service

    seems like there is considerable overlap
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodri9o View Post
    Warning: This is a semi-rant.

    Rode past a bike shop this afternoon (will not mention name) and decided to stop in to see if they had something: a dropped bar for track, in steel in 42cm. After a brief look around, the guy comes out and says some mumbo-jumbo, recommends another close by shop and hits me with this phrase: "...that shop will have little boutique items like that."

    Question from me: When is a steel track bar a boutique item?
    Uh, you realize track cycling (and as such, track-specific components) is not the dominant sub-genre of cycling, right?

    I mean, I know people tend to think track cycling is the only legitimate form of cycling, but unless you live really close to a track (or a gaggle of hipsters), stocking steel handle bars is like stocking penny-farthing parts.
    Quote Originally Posted by pat dasein
    When I say sprint, I mean out of saddle sprinting - something track drop drops aren't designed for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vomitron View Post
    Uh, you realize track cycling (and as such, track-specific components) is not the dominant sub-genre of cycling, right?
    Of course I do...but then again, there is an outdoor track about 30-45 min away, and this was a pretty well known shop, not for track stuff specifically, but well known in general.

    I dunno...maybe I took it the wrong way. The guy did mention that he could order some and have them in a week, which is what I used to tell customers when I worked in a shop.

    Maybe I took 'boutique item' the wrong way...

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    and i may be pulling this out of my ass but i would guess that most track riders arent riding with steel track drops either today

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    or crank cotters, or m-71 pedals
    not banned anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by fix: View Post
    and i may be pulling this out of my ass but i would guess that most track riders arent riding with steel track drops either today
    Sprinters still do, but they also tend to put straps over their spd-r pedals. Most people I know ride road bars despite the CRAZY EXTREME forces track riders generate...because, you know, tour riders are little pansies who don't put a lot of stress on their bikes.

    EDIT:

    To clarify, I think the shop owner meant the following with their usage of the word, "boutique."

    Maybe he judged your size, clothing, etc, or just the fact that you don't already know every shop that carries track components. If you were such an experienced and specialized track rider (as in, you were specializing in sprinting, not just track racing in general), you would know where to get steel bars. This leads to the conclusion that you want steel track bars because they are fashionable in niche communities which you probably belong to. Stores that cater to niche communities and sell highly fashionable (often at the expense of function) items can be accurately described as "boutiques."

    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by vomitron; 12-31-07 at 05:59 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by pat dasein
    When I say sprint, I mean out of saddle sprinting - something track drop drops aren't designed for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fix: View Post
    and i may be pulling this out of my ass but i would guess that most track riders arent riding with steel track drops either today
    Basically, the market for track drops consists of sprinters, and people who want Nitto 123 bars for their Schwinn Continental conversion. 9/10 bikes at the velodrome have inexpensive aluminum road bars.
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    he was calling you a hipster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodri9o View Post
    Warning: This is a semi-rant.

    Rode past a bike shop this afternoon (will not mention name) and decided to stop in to see if they had something: a dropped bar for track, in steel in 42cm. After a brief look around, the guy comes out and says some mumbo-jumbo, recommends another close by shop and hits me with this phrase: "...that shop will have little boutique items like that."

    Question from me: When is a steel track bar a boutique item?
    Go back and hit him in the teeth with a chain. That seems like an equitable
    solution. You know--it is proportional harm to what he did and all.
    Seriously though this guy at the shop sounds like a jerk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidtwisty View Post
    he was calling you a hipster.

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    Write 'boutique item' on a brick and throw it thru their front window after midnight.
    Then call him the next day and ask him if he has any steel track drops.

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    hahahahaha YES

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    LOL...man...you guys are hilarious...and no hidden meanings in that....I am NOT going to throw a brick through the guys window 'cause he didn't have a set of steel track bars!!! roflmao

    I am NOT the experienced track rider by any means, but I am looking to do a few events this coming summer on another bike I am looking to build and accumulate parts for. Also, I know a few guys who like and still ride steel track bars and love the stiffness. I want to try them out on my road fixed to see what they are like. I'll get them...

    I never raced track before, only road road and crit. when I was racing...few time trials here and there...empire state game stuff, etc, etc....Since career decisions have taken up so much time in the last 6 years, it has been a long time since I have raced big events, but I'm looking to get into that again, eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidtwisty View Post
    he was calling you a hipster.

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............................

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    I'd be willing to bet you could go into 90% of the shops out there with any specific type of bar in mind and they wouldn't have it. The shop I worked in had three pairs of cheap replacement bars in stock, everything else we ordered. There's too many options and too limited a space for a shop to try and stock everything.

    I'm sure the shop was able to get them, but they didn't have them in. Maybe he was trying to help you get the bars more quickly. You know, 'cause he thought hipsters generally don't like to wait. They want stuff now.
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    We've got too many steel track drops. In a few sizes. Then again, a good 25% of our stock got sent to us from by 70s and 80s by time machine too.
    It's bad when you're 19 and people consider you an "old geezer" in the current FG community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidtwisty View Post
    he was calling you a hipster.
    Go back sans chrome citizen, vans slip ons, and BDU cap and see what he says.

    if not, resort to the brick.

    Heaven forbid someone suggest you are a hipster.

    Now, I may have you pegged all wrong, but if you looked the part, and he suggested you were a hipster, move to a different, more helpful shop and continue with life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankstoneline View Post
    Now, I may have you pegged all wrong, but if you looked the part, and he suggested you were a hipster,...
    lol...i look nothing like a hipster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodri9o View Post
    lol...i look nothing like a hipster.
    That is what most hipsters say.


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