This guy is crazy if he thinks he'll get $7k for that set. Cherie Wiloughby has a set of Art Blakley's Gretsch drums from the Messengers that she was trying to pawn off for $10k a few years ago, with no takers. If Blakley's Progressive Jazz set can't fetch $10k, what hope does this guy have? Granted, green sparkle is rare as hell, because so few survived, but without any provenance it's just a fragile old drum.
I think that $3000-$4000 is a much more realistic figure for those two drums.
But yeah, it is a good analogy.
Just buy an old roger's kit if your looking for jazz sizing, like, 50's and 60;s are prime, plus you get the sparkle finishes on em. Stellar kits, basically the elite of "hip" kits, imho. You can get em for about a grand if your careful, and they will only appreciate in value unless you break em.
My current kit is ok I guess (cheapo Premier APK kit - 12/14/18) but the wrap is all ****ed up. I'm using a better snare than what came with the kit so it works ok. I have a friend who works for an instrument builder and is learning their lacquer techniques. I'm hoping we can just strip off the wrap and old glue and refinish them in something dark that won't show the flaws too much. If things work out I might be able to pay him in bike parts/wheelbuilding skillz.
If I get serious about this drumming thing again and get some money coming in I'd like to eventually get something nicer.
I also have the probably-stupid idea of replacing the seat on my drum throne with a Brooks.
For some reason I'm really amazed when I hear BFSSFGers talk about stuff other than bikes. For some silly reason I just never imagine that you guys have other hobbies. Especially other hobbies that I also have.
uh shouldnt this thread be in politics and religion or something
not a 2ksuck'r
edit: Ill attach a pic of the finished product, but promise you wont make fun of the really really really old pic and horrible choice of drum sticks and lame venue.... and the typical drummer face. haha!
Last edited by jerrymcdougal; 01-02-08 at 06:15 PM.
I attached a pic of the finished product above^^^
They must have run breakless too. I've done a few gigs where we accidentally forgot to take our break, once during 3 hour set.
I play piano in a trio, BTW.
It's bad when you're 19 and people consider you an "old geezer" in the current FG community.
Heat up the wraps with a hairdryer/heat gun and slowly peel em off. Sand em, stain em and put a varnish over the top if you are worried about durability/damage. If its a fairly cheap kit, its worth giving a shot, even if you do end up buying a new kit, doesnt cost much, and if you sell you can prolly fetch more green for em if youve done a good modification job.
I believe it. I use an 18" kick, and I ride a track bike. I lubs teh Jazz.
I play a jazz kit! But i dont play much jazz on it...
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psh, jazz sizes, gimmie a 24-26" kick, 15" rack tom , 18" floor tom with a 14x8" snare anyDAY, plus a double kick pedal. Jazz is cool though, takes good wrist technique and you gotta be sharp on timing.
i love jazz, but my kit is lo-fi all the way. pearl export and slingerland snare. I play ok for a guitar player.
I am looking for a 52cm-ish lugged mixte or ladies frame. Pm if you got one.
Originally Posted by thebristolkid
As a quasi-professional, I have to advise you to use extreme caution when heating vintage wraps with a heat gun. Keep a bucket of water handy, and immediately turn your heat gun away if you see the slightest hint of flames. They are extremely flammable, and they will burst into flames almost without warning. I unwrap all drums outside, where I wear goggles and a respirator, since the fumes are toxic.
If you're going to rewrap, don't go with that Jammin Sam tape ****. First of all, "Jammin" Sam Barnard is a ******bag, and second, taping your drums is cheap and the wrap will never "bond" with the shell properly. Use 3M NF30 Contact Cement and you'll get as good a job or better than the factory did, especially if you cut the sheets yourself and file at the bearing edge.
Track bikes, drums and cars. Wohooo!!
Started my jazz suite last month.
Working out the tenor saxophone parts...need an alto for solos though.
The piano comp sounds great so far, now to work on the rest...not sure if I will play electric bass or keep it all acoustic, or even if the drums will be played by me or someone else.
So far, all concept, composition, and excecution will be by me.
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