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Old 01-25-08, 10:49 AM   #1
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Fixed Gear Wheels

I am getting a pair of deep v's build for my fixed gear and I want to use a front brake as well. Should the front wheel have a machined lip? I really like the look of the full white rim. Can I use cork brake pads? Will that totally ruin the paint and not give good stopping power?
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Old 01-25-08, 10:51 AM   #2
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For realskies?

Vrede, there is a thread on this very topic going on at this very moment. Just go to the ssfg subforum, click your scrollwheel, and give it a quarter turn.

The answers are there, hanging out with some crucial elementary school "meet me at the flagpole" bickering.
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Old 01-25-08, 10:59 AM   #4
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Wow, everyone is so nice here?! Sorry I missed it, next time I won't even ask.
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Old 01-25-08, 10:59 AM   #5
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no comment.
wait! does replying actually mean i have a comment? i don't want it to seem that way!
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Old 01-25-08, 11:07 AM   #6
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What are you trying to say by not commenting?
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Old 01-25-08, 11:09 AM   #7
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Wow, everyone is so nice here?! Sorry I missed it, next time I won't even ask.
There is THE SAME question 4 posts down from yours.
The forum has a search function at the top which will answer all of your questions similar to this in approximately 30 seconds, at least once, probably more. The process for posting is:
1) look around
2) search for what you are looking for. Not just once and if its not on the first page stop trying. if it doesnt work, search again.
3) then if you REALLY cant find it, post and ask a question.

NOT:
1) post.

kthanks.

P.S. everyone here is super nice, well, most of them, if you use the search function. These are super helpful people who know a lot. and yes, you can run a brake on a non machined V, it will machine itself over time.
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Old 01-25-08, 11:22 AM   #8
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Braking on non machined rims does work, but not as effectively and those rims will never look
clean along the edge that the pad touches.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:14 PM   #9
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Braking on non machined rims does work, but not as effectively and those rims will never look
clean along the edge that the pad touches.

Thank you very much. Sorry I missed the 4 other posts. I was in a super hurry and didn't have time to search. Guess I know better for next time, don't want to get slammed again.
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Deep V's are ugly and heavy.

White rims are clownish looking.

Build your own wheels.

Oh wait, if you can't put forth the effort to do a five second search you sure as hell wouldn't put forth the effort to build your own wheels.
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Thank you very much. Sorry I missed the 4 other posts. I was in a super hurry and didn't have time to search. Guess I know better for next time, don't want to get slammed again.
one time i got hit by a driver. you know what thier excuse was? "i was in a super hurry. sorry."
that's not an excuse pal. the world does not stop and start at your convinience.
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Wow, you guys are really mean. Thanks for ruining my day.

PS I would love to build my own wheels but in my tiny studio I don't have space and I don't know how to build wheels or I would!
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Old 01-25-08, 12:39 PM   #13
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one time i got hit by a driver. you know what thier excuse was? "i was in a super hurry. sorry."
that's not an excuse pal. the world does not stop and start at your convinience.
Donny the world does not ****ing start and stop at your convenience!
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Wow, you guys are really mean. Thanks for ruining my day.

PS I would love to build my own wheels but in my tiny studio I don't have space and I don't know how to build wheels or I would!
Don't let them get you down. The forum seems to be going thru some serious growing pains. All this week every other post has been "Deep V machined rim with a brake?" and after awhile you start to wonder why does everyone have just enough bike knowledge to know they want a unmachined deep v but not enough bike knowledge to know whether or not it will work with a brake.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:56 PM   #16
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See heres the thing. I know it won't work correctly or as effectively, however, my local bike shop said with different brake pads made for carbon wheels the paint won't get messed up. I hardly believed that so I came here to the "bike knowledge center". I guess partly bad timing with all the same posts and partly cuz I was lazy and didn't search. Sorry for getting anyone in a tizzy. The search button and I just had a talk, he is my friend now.
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See heres the thing. I know it won't work correctly or as effectively, however, my local bike shop said with different brake pads made for carbon wheels the paint won't get messed up. I hardly believed that so I came here to the "bike knowledge center". I guess partly bad timing with all the same posts and partly cuz I was lazy and didn't search. Sorry for getting anyone in a tizzy. The search button and I just had a talk, he is my friend now.
The special brake pads on the rim is a legitimate question. I've never heard of that, maybe someone else has, although it did pique my curiosity and I found this:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9143.0.html

Half-way down they talk about brake pads on carbon rims. Not what you are looking for. Honestly if you want a colored rim, I think a machined one is the way to go as I can't imagine any friction not machining it over time. I know the non machined look is really clean and some people are really into aesthetics (I am I won't lie) but I had to draw the line and just let go when it came to my front wheel.
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^^^ agreed on the interesting question.

you should have asked that specifically in the beginning... it would have shown people that you (at least partially) have some idea what you were talking about.

Think about it from the perspective of someone who spends all their time on this forum: the question about machined vs. nonmachined deep vees does get asked VERY often. Usually by people that have very little knowledge of what they want, and aren't even sure what their question really is. It's like the people who post questions asking about the difference between "fixed" and "single speed." it's the kind of stuff that a real quick search on the interwebz would answer. And the kind of stuff high-n-mighty people like to call others out on for being stupid. I mean, it is the internet after all.

And some people just aren't able to handle the same simple questions over and over again, and are for some reason compelled to click on the thread, then reply with their displeasure.

All that being said, I am curious about different pads effecting the coating. but whether or not that will actually get addressed remains to be seen.

EDIT: A quick google search did turn up this thread: success with brakes on unmachined rims?
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Rim brakes even wear chrome plated rims. What you are looking for is not possible. All it takes is one tiny speck of grit between the pad and rim and the powder coat will get scratched. Then the scratches just get filled with pad material and other muck.
Which is probably why my rim was machined in a week being that I was riding it in the middle of the winter with all the salt and grime.
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Oh wait, if you can't put forth the effort to do a five second search you sure as hell wouldn't put forth the effort to build your own wheels.
You build you own slick? Doubt it.
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