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Old 02-02-08, 07:50 PM   #1
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24-hole rear-hub?

I have a nice 24 spoke wheel that I'd really like to build into a track wheel. I'm not finding any hubs that have 24 holes. I realize that that has to do with the amount of torque put on a fixed hub, but I'm not riding so hard that it would make that much difference.
Any suggestions or resources?
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Phil, custom drilled to 24 holes. Those rims must be super special for you to go through with the expense. I'm guessing you could also take a 36 hole track hub and start skipping holes with various spoke lengths as well. Sounds like a recipe for disaster though.

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Old 02-02-08, 08:11 PM   #3
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Don't worry about the torque, it's not a huge difference if any. It's interesting that you ask this because if the search function worked, you would have found a thread I created just weeks ago asking the exact same question. Well actually, I preferred a road hub with splines for a Shimano freehub so I could convert back and forth with a Surly Fixxer, but the only one I found was a Dura Ace 7700 or something for like $120. As for track-specific, here's what I've found:

On-One sells several 24-hole hubs (take their GBP currency and multiply by about two to get the price in USD), including an NJS Suzue for about $100, a carbon Suzue for $200, and a house-brand one for about $30 (I was extremely happy to find one for this cheap.. it wasn't easy). The link for the purchase page is here: http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Rear.html and there's also a similar page here (note that Planet-X and On-One are the same company) http://www.planet-x-bikes.com/track/...ge&PAGE_id=122

Sheldon Brown also told me that you could use a 36h hub, but skipping every third spoke hole. A bit wonky, but if you've got a favorite hub... here's the link: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/36-24.htm

Oh, and Phil Wood will drill any pattern for you, but of course, it'll cost you: http://www.philwood.com/High%20Flange.htm

Good luck man!
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I have an American Classic 24 h freewheel hub on a single speed. I did have to take the hacksaw to it to reduce the OLD to 120, though. Not the axle, but the slip-on spacers it used.
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I would sell the 24 rim and get a good 32 or 36
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Some cannot be replaced so easily.

I have a 24 hole super aero 650c Araya that is very rare deadstock, but finding a high flange to lace it to proves to be tricky.
I will check out that Suzue 24h someone mentioned above, although it is not NJS as stated, since it is not 36 hole.....
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I would sell the 24 rim and get a good 32 or 36
Yeah, like I said. They'd have to be something special. The problem with 24h anything is getting replacements for hub/rim once they wear out. You'll just run into the same problems all over again.
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I would suggest a 24 hole road hub with a Fixxer, respaced.

Or a 24 hole disc front hub from a mountain bike with a Tommi Cog, again, properly spaced.

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I would suggest a 24 hole road hub with a Fixxer, respaced.

Or a 24 hole disc front hub from a mountain bike with a Tommi Cog, again, properly spaced.

-Rob.
As I said, I was looking for those as well, but pickings are slim unless you want to spend above $200. Be careful when buying, because a lot of 24 hole rear road hubs are of the modern design where the freehub body is partially integrated with the hub body, so they're not compatable with the Surly Fixxer. That's what came on my wheelset, which is why I'm having this problem.

So if anyone can find an inexpensive 24h road hub that's Fixxer-compatable, please post it here.
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Zipp has em. Just $460 MSRP for the 20/24 front/rear set.
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Right now, I'm leaning toward one of these:
http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Rear.html
... as suggested above.
It's just really effing annoying how bad the dollar is right. The conversion to pounds is killing me!
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