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Old 02-03-08, 12:55 PM   #1
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suggestions for something like the alien frame, but cheaper?

i like that frame a lot, except for the stupid long drop out, but $500 is too much for my budget

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Old 02-03-08, 01:10 PM   #2
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If you are looking for a lugged steel frame, nothing comes to mind too much cheaper than that. If you are looking for a nice classic looking frame, and dont care much about welds, the soma rush is a super nice frame, IRO makes good frames and so does Spicer. I think there was a similar thread a while ago, you might jump on search for "lugged frame" or something.
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sparton yo!
edit: I was going to say they are boatanchors and a waste of time, but I just checked em out some and it looks to me like they are considerably more "finished" now from the last time I looked at em.
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Wade through ebay for old steel track frames. A lot of times you can find something from Italy (though not a premier builder like say, Colnago) for a pretty good deal, albeit used. Typically Reynolds 531, too.
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those spartons look like crap

and i'm definitely not going the iro route
i need something mildly unique, it will be my "nice" bike
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If you want nice, you gotta spend bucks. Or make friends fast and get a hook up deal. All my nice frames have been under 600, and NJS at that.
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If you want nice, you gotta spend bucks. Or make friends fast and get a hook up deal. All my nice frames have been under 600, and NJS at that.
agreed, I mean, a lot of people like pista concepts, you can get those framesets for about 550, but I would say right around there is the start of "nice" and "unique" though a concept isnt as unique as a lot of people would like to believe. "nice" on the cheap is hard to find, though used NJS frames can be found for a little less than 500.
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agreed, I mean, a lot of people like pista concepts, you can get those framesets for about 550, but I would say right around there is the start of "nice" and "unique" though a concept isnt as unique as a lot of people would like to believe. "nice" on the cheap is hard to find, though used NJS frames can be found for a little less than 500.
uhh, where?
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uhh, where?
where are concepts less than 600?
I dont know, I remember just being browsing around and seeing framesets for like 550 somewhere. I could be wrong/looking at an unreliable source.
If you were wondering where NJS frames are cheaper try ebay, a couple have sold for around 450 in the past couple days.
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uhh, where?
$549 is indeed the retail price for the Pista Concept frameset.

http://www.bikyle.com/Track.asp#Bianchi
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$549 is indeed the retail price for the Pista Concept frameset.

http://www.bikyle.com/Track.asp#Bianchi
Most places are sold out of Concept frames. There was a thread not long ago about where to find the few remaining ones...
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where are concepts less than 600?
I dont know, I remember just being browsing around and seeing framesets for like 550 somewhere. I could be wrong/looking at an unreliable source.
If you were wondering where NJS frames are cheaper try ebay, a couple have sold for around 450 in the past couple days.
i was talking about the njs frames. and i would need a 57-58cm and those go for grips on ebay. i hate being tall.
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edit: I was going to say they are boatanchors and a waste of time, but I just checked em out some and it looks to me like they are considerably more "finished" now from the last time I looked at em.

You mean they took better photo's and jacked up the price 70$. ?

Does any one know how much they Actually weight. last i heard it was 7ish pounds, That leads me to believe they have got to be something less than 4130. I admit they look nice but old Lugged 4130 Cromo frames can be had for 0-50$ Sanded and sprayed will look nearly as nice for potentially as little as 20$

If they weighted Something reasonable. and where 170$ i would be all over one


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$500 is too much for my budget
Check your math, broseph.
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You mean they took better photo's and jacked up the price 70$. ?

Does any one know how much they Actually weight. last i heard it was 7ish pounds, That leads me to believe they have got to be something less than 4130. I admit they look nice but old Lugged 4130 Cromo frames can be had for 0-50$ Sanded and sprayed will look nearly as nice for potentially as little as 20$

If they weighted Something reasonable. and where 170$ i would be all over one
I think they hired a glamor shots photographer for this set of frames.

If a lugged 61 cm frame weighs 6.9 pounds, (Sparton Track)
and a welded 56 cm frame weighs 6.3 pounds, (Surly Steamroller)
then I would conclude that they have similar tubing.

That being said I will be getting a kilo TT frameset.
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