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Old 02-04-08, 07:04 PM   #1
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Make the decision for me!

I have a Kona Paddy Wagon frame coming in for my new build. What cranks? I have some old school Soviet track cranks but I feel they won't look slick w/ a modern frame..

Should I pony up the cash for the Sugino 75? Should I go with Miche? Should be funny and get some BMX cranks?
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Trade me for some Sugino 75s.
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Paddy Wagon & racy Sugino 75 don't sound right to me. how about something like Paul's crankset?
http://www.paulcomp.com/crankroad.html
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Trade me for some Sugino 75s.
Whatcha got?

I'm actually somewhat tempted to do the bmx cranks ordeal..kinda do a "big bmx" bike thing w/ the paddy wagon..

Anyone know what the chainline ordeal would be like?
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Anyone here use BMX cranks w/ a bmx bottom bracket? What sizing bb do I need so it fits? euro?
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Anyone here use BMX cranks w/ a bmx bottom bracket? What sizing bb do I need so it fits? euro?
Euro, yes. That fits BSA shells like on most bikes today, including the beautiful Paddy Wagon.

I'm in the process of putting BMX cranks on one of my bikes, as I love some of the crazy designs of the BMX chainrings.

EDIT: posted this earlier today:
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Chainline: I now have a solution for any chainline problem with my singlespeeds: instead of using a singlespeed hub and freewheel, I use a normal freehub on which I put those "singlespeed conversion" spacers and a BMX sprocket in whatever position the chainline falls. Result: no more problems with chainline, as I can accomodate nearly any chainline with the spacers on the freehub. And furthermore, freehubs last way longer than any freewheel, and are easier to service.
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but how does that work since i'll be running fixed..
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but how does that work since i'll be running fixed..
Ah, fixed. OK, forget the freehub solution, then. If you want a BMX crankset, you still have options to set up the chainline, with spacers at the BB (thin aluminium rings) and/or at the hub where you thread the cog/sprocket on - you can add a little spacer to push the sprocket a tad more to the driveside. Also, you can flip the sprocket, which can give you several mm to one side or the other. Also, spacers on the rear wheel axle can be moved to one or the other side of the hub, but then you should also re-dish the wheel to keep the centerline for the tyres.

Anyway, as I always say for chainline problems:
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Ah, fixed. OK, forget the freehub solution, then. If you want a BMX crankset, you still have options to set up the chainline, with spacers at the BB (thin aluminium rings) and/or at the hub where you thread the cog/sprocket on - you can add a little spacer to push the sprocket a tad more to the driveside. Also, you can flip the sprocket, which can give you several mm to one side or the other. Also, spacers on the rear wheel axle can be moved to one or the other side of the hub, but then you should also re-dish the wheel to keep the centerline for the tyres.

Anyway, as I always say for chainline problems:
Yeah the bb is what I heard about, that's sound tiight.
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I have a Kona Paddy Wagon frame coming in for my new build. What cranks? I have some old school Soviet track cranks but I feel they won't look slick w/ a modern frame..

Should I pony up the cash for the Sugino 75? Should I go with Miche? Should be funny and get some BMX cranks?
We need pictures of the cranks to make an informed decision.

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ha

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Whatcha got?

I'm actually somewhat tempted to do the bmx cranks ordeal..kinda do a "big bmx" bike thing w/ the paddy wagon..

Anyone know what the chainline ordeal would be like?
they said it would happen but here it is, plain as fuking day

"Big BMX"
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Cranks maybe these:

or


With this chainring


On this frame:


Also, can't decide between a silver or black Cane Creek S6 headset, and whether or not to keep my silver Thomson seatpost.

I do kind of like the look of this crankset that's on the stock Paddy Wagon..

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get some mavics.
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Cranks maybe these:
or
With this chainring
On this frame:
Also, can't decide between a silver or black Cane Creek S6 headset, and whether or not to keep my silver Thomson seatpost.
In any case, it's going to be an AWESOME bike! I have been drooling since yesterday (big fan of the Paddy Wagon frame, and of BMX chainrings).

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Don't BMX cranks "ride" different? I just can't see myself doin an alleycat w/ BMX cranks..or am I overthinking it?
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Don't BMX cranks "ride" different? I just can't see myself doin an alleycat w/ BMX cranks..or am I overthinking it?
They ride just the same as any cranks. They are burlier than road or track cranks, but other than that they're identical in effect. And the chainrings as well: they function exactly the same and feel the same.
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White Industries. Lighter than Pauls and comes in many color combos. My personal favorite and I am considering a silver on silver combo for my Pista.

Caveat: largest ring offered is only a 44T, in which case you'd need to run a 16T for 73 gear inches (optimal for me.)
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Oh yeah.

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Nice.
And here's some BMX chainrings:






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don't get bmx stuff, I have a profile bmx crank on my jump bike and the q-factor is wide like horses' saddle.
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^^^My FSA BMX cranks have less Q-factor than the ones I had on one of my singlespeeds up until recently (I can't measure the Q-factor on cranks I still have on bikes, so I had to use these that are off).

It depends on the cranks.
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Yeah I don't want it to be wide :/. Guess BMX is out of the question..

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White Industries. Lighter than Pauls and comes in many color combos. My personal favorite and I am considering a silver on silver combo for my Pista.

Caveat: largest ring offered is only a 44T, in which case you'd need to run a 16T for 73 gear inches (optimal for me.)
Only 4 skid patches.
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44x15T is 15 patches.
44x16T is 4 patches
44x17T is 17 patches.

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