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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 02-19-08, 10:22 PM   #1
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does anyone actually use the fixed side of a flip-flop?

i see lots of topics about people with new ss freewheel builds claiming they keep a cog on the other side "for when they ride fixed".

does anyone who actually rides a fixed gear switch to the freewheel side? i know of two people who ride a freewheel with a fixed cog on the other side who have never flipped their wheel. this seems to be more representative of the "flip flop hub" demographic.
i also don't know of anyone who rides fixed who would ever ride a singlespeed freewheel "on occasion".

is "for when i ride fixed" a myth?
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Old 02-19-08, 10:23 PM   #2
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i've never actually used the freewheel on my hub. :/

guess i should take it off.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:24 PM   #3
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uhh ive never used the freewheel side.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:25 PM   #4
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My bike came with a freewheel. I don't have the tool to remove it. It bugged me for a few minutes but then I forgot.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:25 PM   #5
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There has never been anything threaded on the freewheel side of my hub. Only reason I got flip/flop is because that's how the cheapo formulas come. Next hubs I'll get will probably be DA (or Suzue ProMax if I can find some), and I certainly won't miss having useless threads on the non-drive side.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:26 PM   #6
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the only people i know that use a flip flop hub are ss mtb'ers who ride fixed in town and a lower freewheel gear on trails, and people who have one wheelset that they swap between a road conversion and a cruiser or townie.
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ive used it before. i'm about to switch my old conversion back to freewheel to have a ss beater.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:29 PM   #8
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uhh ive never used the freewheel side.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:32 PM   #10
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I have cogs on both sides, and use both.
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Old 02-19-08, 10:34 PM   #11
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i had a free wheel on my hub because the guy at the shop built my wheels for a ss, but said that he was too lazy to take it off when he put my cog on and just gave it to me for free, i recently took it off cause it is not good to ride a ss without brakes
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i often wonder if i am the only person on earth who actually flips the old flip-flop regularly. i guess i am.
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Old 02-19-08, 11:38 PM   #13
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My commuter has a single/single hub. I'm only running one freewheel on it at the moment though.
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Old 02-19-08, 11:42 PM   #14
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freewheels are for college freshmen langster scum
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I use mine when I'm riding the old girl near Tahoe. I'll be damned if I'm going to spin down Mt. Rose.
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I've never used the freewheel side and was super stoked to see the new wheel I bought was fixed/fixed
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I kind of regret getting a wheel with a fixed/free instead of a fixed/fixed. I've never so much as looked at the freewheel threads, whereas I've often thought it'd be nice to have two cogs to choose from. Oh well.
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I run a fixed cog on each side, even when threaded for a freewheel. I don't run a lockring, but I do run a front brake. All my double threaded wheelsets for the fixed gear run fixed/fixed cogs. I don't like to mix fixed and free on the same wheel.

As far as single speeds, I have a conversion that's a dedicated single speed and nothing else. I like taking this bike out on hilly rides so I can coast on long descents.

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I kind of regret getting a wheel with a fixed/free instead of a fixed/fixed. I've never so much as looked at the freewheel threads, whereas I've often thought it'd be nice to have two cogs to choose from. Oh well.
You can still run a fixed cog on the free side sans lockring as long as you're running a brake.
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don't run a lockring, but I do run a front brake.
Not that it's any of my business, but why not put a bottom bracket lockring on that so your cog doesn't unscrew? They are cheap and easy to find and could save you from an accident or wrecking your hub.
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Not that it's any of my business, but why not put a bottom bracket lockring on that so your cog doesn't unscrew? They are cheap and easy to find and could save you from an accident or wrecking your hub.
Because in all the years of riding, they have never spun off, even with moderate backpedalling. I understand what you're saying. I realize they can be had for almost nothing but with quality hub/cog combo the cog should not spin loose.
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You can still run a fixed cog on the free side sans lockring as long as you're running a brake.
Oh, I know, but I'd manage to make that into a painful lesson. Quickly.
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No freewheel no brakes, LYVE FAST DYE YUNG. LUL.
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You people never heard of BB lockrings, have you?
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seems like the concern would be the damage it could do to your threads. even though the movement is very slight, you are still moving the cog back and forth on the threads under very high torque, which I would think could do some damage. but again, it's your hub.
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