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Old 02-23-08, 02:46 PM   #1
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ss/fg frame with rackmounts like woah

Does anyone know of a fixed gear (single speed, whatever) frame with full rack mounts?
i'm looking to build a grocery bike by spring. gonna be fixed, but i'm going to run a front + rear brake for max stopping with a full load of groceries in front + back. i was initially hoping to find a touring bike, but i can't seem to find anything in my size that isn't junk or made of heavy (if you know of one in ~52, that would be helpful too).

one of these in front:
http://www.amazon.com/Wald-Standard-...3799235&sr=8-2

two of these in back:
http://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Rear-G...3799367&sr=8-1

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Old 02-23-08, 02:50 PM   #2
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Why not just use an old road frame?
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P clamps.

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Old 02-23-08, 03:01 PM   #4
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Iro Rob Roy possibly?
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Old 02-23-08, 03:01 PM   #5
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BD frames have rack mounts, as does the IRO Rob Roy. I added a rack to an old cyclocross frame by using the Tubus mounts for eyeletless frames and drilling them out to accommodate a solid axle. They are rock solid.

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looks like i missed the rob roy group buy. they definitely have front/rear rackmounts?
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looks like i missed the rob roy group buy. they definitely have front/rear rackmounts?
They have rear mounts. You'd be hard pressed to find a stock SS/FG frame with a fork with eyelets; there are plenty of aftermarket forks though.
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wow, this looks perfect. not a bad price, either. i'll try to find a frameset, but the complete looks like a good place to start if i can't find just frame/fork.

ed: actually, the more i look at it, the more i think i'd keep it pretty much stock. swap the bars for moustache, drop the bashguard, remove the fenders, maybe make a few small upgrades after riding, but that's probably not necessary.

thanks, allenG.

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The Redline 925 might fit the bill, as well.
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I think you'd be very happy with Il Pompino.

Not very well known around here, undeservedly though, because it's by far the best singlespeed frame among the cited (though I like the Redline 925 a lot).
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I think you'd be very happy with Il Pompino.

Not very well known around here, undeservedly though, because it's by far the best singlespeed frame among the cited (though I like the Redline 925 a lot).
One problem with the Il Pompino is that it has incredibly short chainstays; I can't imagine a set up where you wouldn't be kicking your panniers all the time......
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It's not that bad, really.
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It's not that bad, really.
Do you ride one? As I recall the CS are around 40cm. If you do ride one what rack/pannier setup do you use to avoid heel strike?
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I rode a small Pompino. I only remember that it was a fantastic ride. Heel was fine - no hitting anything, but I have to admit the bike didn't have rack or fenders for that matter.

It was a memorable ride. Oh yeah!

For better or worse, On-One only (apparently) makes the newer 120mm rear spaced Pompinos now, so the heel issue should be even less of an, you know, issue?


EDIT: and the reason I didn't order one is that On-One didn't have any Pompino frames for sale for a while, and then I blew my frame-money on a nice Zion EBB 29er. Only now did I notice they are available for order again. Maybe sometimes next year for me.
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I rode a small Pompino. I only remember that it was a fantastic ride. Heel was fine - no hitting anything, but I have to admit the bike didn't have rack or fenders for that matter.

It was a memorable ride. Oh yeah!

For better or worse, On-One only (apparently) makes the newer 120mm rear spaced Pompinos now, so the heel issue should be even less of an, you know, issue?


EDIT: and the reason I didn't order one is that On-One didn't have any Pompino frames for sale for a while, and then I blew my frame-money on a nice Zion EBB 29er. Only now did I notice they are available for order again. Maybe sometimes next year for me.
Um, no. Heel strike is the heel of your shoe hitting the panniers on your rack as you peddle. Of course if you didn't have a rack and panniers on the bike you tried you wouldn't have had heel strike.....

EDIT: The rear spacing has nothing to do with heel strike.
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True regarding the rear spacing. I only had one instance of heel hitting something when I was hitting the canti brakes on a small Kona Kilauea while wearing those fugly North Face gore-tex shoes. Never after or before.
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True regarding the rear spacing. I only had one instance of heel hitting something when I was hitting the canti brakes on a small Kona Kilauea while wearing those fugly North Face gore-tex shoes. Never after or before.
Have you ever used a rack and panniers?
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Of course. I am not sure where you are going with these, but really, is there a cyclist in the world that has never used a rack? But for that matter: I even had a rack on the Kilauea, and didn't have problems with my heels hitting any protuberance.

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If you're going to be using it as a grocery bike, who cares how heavy it is.
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As Ziemas mentioned, you will want something with long chainstays. The problem with most touring bikes for fixed however is not the weight, but the low bottom bracket.

I would suggest an old mid-range schwinn road frame or similar. It may be a few pounds heavier, but the geometry should be just what you need and it will have eyelets front and rear.
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If you're going to be using it as a grocery bike, who cares how heavy it is.
me.
the last thing i want when riding home with groceries is an extra five (or more) pounds.

incidentally, why do all of your posts suck?

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quick question:
the ralleigh one-way has 425mm chainstays. is this sufficient to avoid pedal strike? i'll be using this in the back, one on each side:
http://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Rear-G...3799367&sr=8-1
most likely with 165mm cranks.

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the last thing i want when riding home with groceries is an extra five (or more) pounds.
First of all, you're not going to be saving 5 pounds from even the lightest frames to the heaviest frames. Nothing that you'd be using as a utility bike anyways. Second of all, I think you need to be made aware that weight means absolutely nothing when you have 9000lbs of groceries on your bike anyways.

You going to start winning pro races on your grocery bike?

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why do all of your posts suck?
My post reflects on the questions asked. I was going to suggest a frame for you after some research but now you can go **** yourself. Figures that you and the rest of the forum thinks stuff like,

1) skipping and skidding is the best braking method
2) chain tensioners are a good alternative to learning how to secure a rear wheel

Then we got ourselves a new winner out of you.
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9000lbs of groceries on your bike anyways.
glad to see you're still making sense.
anyway, thanks for the input, irrelevant as always.
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There's also the Kogwell Porteur, which was designed to be used as a speedy hauling machine and even has multiple fork options for what type of load you're moving.
http://www.kogswell.com/products.html

The price is a little above what you're talking about, of course.
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