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Old 03-08-08, 02:19 PM   #1
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post pics of interesting ways to lace a wheel.

i just want to see some intersting wheels.
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Old 03-08-08, 02:45 PM   #2
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Snowflake pattern wheels
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Three leading, three trailing. I'm thinking of building one for my front wheel.

Here's the guys' site if you're interested: http://www.baldurdash.org/OtherStuff...3trailing.html
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anyone have any pics of bikes with the 3 leading 3 trailing? i cnt decide if i want both wheels, just the front, or just the back to be like that.
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anyone have any pics of bikes with the 3 leading 3 trailing? i cnt decide if i want both wheels, just the front, or just the back to be like that.
Lol. Post #3. K thx.
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Lol. Post #3. K thx.
i was asking for a picture with the wheel ON the bike. kthxbye
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its just a wheel, imagine it on the bike
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i was asking for a picture with the wheel ON the bike. kthxbye
You don't really need someone to tell you that it looks funky do you?
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Wouldn't these methods of lacing make it hard(er) to true a wheel?
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Pfft...trued wheels are for freds.
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how does the strength of a 3L3T wheel compare to a standard cross 3?
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You don't really need someone to tell you that it looks funky do you?
nope. i need someone to show me.
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lacing

not as strong i would say. the main problem i had with it is interlacing the spokes caused too much tension and caused them to snap, so if you do go with that pattern dont weave them within each other and it should be alright. probably not the most efficient when truing either.
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not as strong i would say. the main problem i had with it is interlacing the spokes caused too much tension and caused them to snap, so if you do go with that pattern dont weave them within each other and it should be alright. probably not the most efficient when truing either.
I relaced a 32h front wheel from 3 cross to 3l3t. You dont have to change spoke lengths or anything, which is a big plus. Other fancy lacing variations can require multiple spoke lengths. While a 3l3t isn't quite as strong as a 3 cross wheel, it is stronger than a radial wheel. I recommend that you do weave the spokes together. Crossing spokes does little to lower their stiffness and greatly increases the strength of the wheel due to the flexing that can occur between crossed spokes. Rather than increasing the likelihood of spoke snappage, you will gain a stronger, more robust and compliant wheel with slightly reduced stiffness over non-woven spokes. Spoke tension is mainly a function of nipple adjustment, not interlacing. You can get away with not interlacing spokes for the front wheel but don't do it for the rear wheel. Trueing is less intuitive with a 3l3t than a 3cross but is no less efficient.

I would recommend trying out 3lt3t with a high spoke count wheel with a high flange hub for best visual results. Also, if you are worried about wheel strength, stay away from twisted spoke patterns. Those things are very tough to do well.
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is there any way to do a Radial pattern front wheel and have it be strong enough for daily city riding?
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is there any way to do a Radial pattern front wheel and have it be strong enough for daily city riding?
How many spokes for your upper limit?

36 spoke radial on deep V's would be a strong wheel.
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is there any way to do a Radial pattern front wheel and have it be strong enough for daily city riding?
A radial is strong enough for city riding. This has far more to do with the builder than the pattern.
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radials are usually only weak to rotational torque, not stiffness or anything like that. i know tons of people riding radial fronts in the city.
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Hmm...id love to have a radial front (for no other reason that the look). I'm currently running 32h weinman dp18s. Are there any other benifits (aside from personal preference and a SLIGHT weight loss) from radial lacing? Any major drawbacks?
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Hmm...id love to have a radial front (for no other reason that the look). I'm currently running 32h weinman dp18s. Are there any other benifits (aside from personal preference and a SLIGHT weight loss) from radial lacing? Any major drawbacks?
Hub flanges more likely to separate from hub. Failure is a major drawback.



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