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    Dura Ace Hi-Flange hubs + radial lacing

    hi,

    have the opportunity to get a pair of Dura Ace track hubs from my LBS for a song.

    thinking of going bling with it. how well would the front hub stand with radial lacing for normal street use? dun really wanna break such a beautiful set of hubs.

    cheers

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    Assuming you're not 300 lbs, I wouldn't even worry.

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    It's not the hub that'll get toasted, if anything does. You'd break spokes, and knacker the rim. What spoke count, and what do you weigh?

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    You'll void the warranty but I've never known a pair of Dura-Ace track hubs to come apart. (The 'new' ones anyway. I did have a pair from the 80s crack, and we all know the story about C-Records)

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    2nd on voiding the warranty.
    I think I posted my conversation with the Shimano product engineer before, but it seems poignant:

    me: "Why don't you guys warranty radial laced track hubs?"

    him: "Why do you feel that you need to radial lace your track hubs?"

    I left it at that.
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    I'd do 1x....looks close to radial, but less risky.

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    One of the mechanics at the one of my lbs rides a cannondale capo with dura ace radial laced in front to deep v's, he's a big dude and he's fine.

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    You should try it and then tell us how it worked out. If the hub flange explodes while you're riding... hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
    I'd do 1x....looks close to radial, but less risky.
    depends on how many spokes... if it's a lower spoke count the leading/trailing spokes may not actually contact each other, and that's what makes an n-cross wheel stronger. The only benefit from a 1x lacing is that the force on the flange is slightly more tangential.
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    If you use the search function, there's a post somewhere in here from 11.4 explaining this specific issue and he is The Authority, period.

    Anyhow, basically he said radially laced DA HF front hub will be just fine due to the superior milling technique Shimano uses in manufacturing them etc.

    For LF hub it is a no-no but everyone knows this already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimArchy View Post
    2nd on voiding the warranty.
    I think I posted my conversation with the Shimano product engineer before, but it seems poignant:

    me: "Why don't you guys warranty radial laced track hubs?"

    him: "Why do you feel that you need to radial lace your track hubs?"

    I left it at that.
    You did. And I was going to use your quote, without a specific citation. Thanks for saving me.

    And it is really too bad that 11.4 doesn't post anymore.
    not banned anymore

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    so i just leave it as it is and go ahead with the lacing cause i am only 65kg and the hubs are so structurally sound that it's bruce willis unbreakable.

    you guys are the best...thanks a heap for the comments..can't wait those hubs are going to be sweet!!

    cheers

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    i run a deep V radially laced to DA 36h and i haven't had any problems...whether it's potholes...coming down curbs or even going up curbs. i'm sure weight matters, but in all honestly i wouldn't worry about it.

    apparently* also the main guy from wheelbuilders.com or something states that radially laced wheels "if tensioned properly and built properly" are no weaker than their 3x counterparts... i found it hard to believe but i'm just playing devil's advocate.

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    I am 185 or so and I have been fine for about a year on a radial laced DA 32h front to DeepV wheel.

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