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    The 43cm Motobecane Messenger - anyone seen it?

    I was looking to get this as a present for someone - and was thinking it would just be a cheaper version of the Fuji Track SE. Emailed bikes direct, and it sounds like it isn't - it's using 700c wheels and a sloping top tube. Just wanted to see how goofy it looks before putting money down on one. The response from bikes direct:

    sorry - motobecane has not updated the geometry

    we don't know until they do

    at any rate - it would be proportionately smaller than the 49cm -

    if the 49cm is a bit too large for her, then the 43cm would be the only other choice

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    would figure the standover on the 43cm is about 5cm / 2 inches lower

    yes - it uses 700c wheels -

    the top tube is sloping

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    Guess i'll be going with a track SE then.

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    i got one for the girlfriend it runs 700's and has a slight sloping top tube, the top of the seat tube tube is about level with the top of the tire.. the geometry is really relaxed(long wheel base), i havent had a chance to measure its actual size but i doubt its an actual 43.. send me a message and i can come up with a picture for you.

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    I would love to see a picture of that with the 700 wheels
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    43cm!? is this for your child?
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    I am looking at that size in the messenger(700c) and the fuji track(650c)...my girl is only about 5'...

    I'd rather go with a 700c wheel due to availability. Good luck, please post pix of your decision.

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    one of our local girls is tiny and rides a 49? iro with 650s. 43 seems impossible small.

    also:

    http://www.juniorvelo.com/?p=148
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    I am looking for a 52cm-ish lugged mixte or ladies frame. Pm if you got one.
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    I was just looking at the IRO "Heidi" frame, they state for people 5' and under...yeah and 650c wheels. $150 to 200 more than that Fuji or messenger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceas View Post
    The response from bikes direct:

    sorry - motobecane has not updated the geometry
    Given that everyone knows these are both the same company, and bikedirect_com readily admits that it is him alone running the show, why does he insist on refering to himself in the third person? Why not just replace the word "motobecane" with "my taiwanese frame factory"?
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    Why does it matter?

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    got pictures
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Given that everyone knows these are both the same company, and bikedirect_com readily admits that it is him alone running the show, why does he insist on refering to himself in the third person? Why not just replace the word "motobecane" with "my taiwanese frame factory"?
    He's buying mostly off the peg stuff from the frame factory, he's not sending them the geometry specs necessarily. If he just told them "make me a really small one" there's no reason to expect him to know the exact geometry.
    "I don't buy new frames, it just encourages them."

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    oh that's cute.
    It looks like the wheels and the chain ring might eat the frame.
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