Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-19-08, 07:02 AM   #1
Timtruro
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Timtruro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Truro, MA
Bikes: Aegis Trident (Big Red)
Posts: 1,607
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Question on conversion to fixed gear

I have been considering converting a late 1980's, early 90's Peugeot 12 speed, to a fixed gear bike. I am new to the fixed gear phenomenon so my question may seem naiive. The question is, why wouldn't I just leave the current configuration, keep it in a high gear, and resolve not to change gears or coast? Does it have something to do with the chainline?, efficiency?

I should point out that I am 59 years old, in reasonably good shape, but at this point should I even be considering a fixed gear. I am intrigued by the potential fitness aspects.

I mostly ride my Sirrus Comp at present, sometimes the Peugeot, and some times a Trek Navigator 500.
Timtruro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 07:06 AM   #2
Hobartlemagne 
Spelling Snob
 
Hobartlemagne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Plano, Texas
Bikes: Panasonic DX4000, Bianchi Pista
Posts: 2,862
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Riding in the highest gear all the time will mess up your knees.
The gear you select for a single speed should be right in the middle, so you can climb and also sprint.
You can experiment with your bike before converting to figure out the right one. I suggest use the
small chainring and pick a middle gear in the back.

Deciding not to change gears or coast is not the same as riding fixed. You don't have the same intimate
connection to the road. You wont be able to back-pedal either, which is the easiest way to make small
decelerations on the fixie.
__________________

The first rule of flats is You don't talk about flats!
Hobartlemagne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 07:14 AM   #3
Timtruro
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Timtruro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Truro, MA
Bikes: Aegis Trident (Big Red)
Posts: 1,607
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobartlemagne View Post
Riding in the highest gear all the time will mess up your knees.
The gear you select for a single speed should be right in the middle, so you can climb and also sprint.
You can experiment with your bike before converting to figure out the right one. I suggest use the
small chainring and pick a middle gear in the back.

Deciding not to change gears or coast is not the same as riding fixed. You don't have the same intimate
connection to the road. You wont be able to back-pedal either, which is the easiest way to make small
decelerations on the fixie.
thanks for the input, makes sense.
Timtruro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 07:41 AM   #4
MrCjolsen
Senior Member
 
MrCjolsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Davis CA
Bikes: Surly Cross-Check, '85 Giant road bike (unrecogizable fixed-gear conversion
Posts: 3,957
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Besides, if you have enemies, as I do, and they try to eliminate you by cutting the brake cables on your bicycle, their plans will be thwarted because you can stop using your chain, thereby living on to fight another day.
MrCjolsen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 07:53 AM   #5
Peedtm
Tell them I hate them
 
Peedtm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Boise, ID
Bikes: Specialized Allez Epic '91, IRO Mark V Pro, Schwinn Traveler
Posts: 939
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The fitness aspects of riding your current set up with no coasting is greater. On your fixed, your pedals will carry your legs through the "dead spot". Also you'll be more inclined to tackle hills on your geared bike. Just sayin.
Peedtm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 08:08 AM   #6
Timtruro
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Timtruro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Truro, MA
Bikes: Aegis Trident (Big Red)
Posts: 1,607
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peedtm View Post
The fitness aspects of riding your current set up with no coasting is greater. On your fixed, your pedals will carry your legs through the "dead spot". Also you'll be more inclined to tackle hills on your geared bike. Just sayin.
So you recommend not converting ?
Timtruro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 08:28 AM   #7
Sammyboy
The Legitimiser
 
Sammyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southampton, UK
Bikes: Gazelle Trim Trophy, EG Bates Track Bike, HR Bates Cantiflex bike, Nigel Dean fixed gear conversion, Raleigh Royal, Falcon Westminster.
Posts: 4,846
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you want single-speed, the reasons for doing it properly, rather than simply leaving it in one gear, are mostly about it looking nice. Fixed, however, is a quite different riding experience. If you don't want to experience what it's like not to be able to coast, and to be able to slow down with your legs, then there's no reason to do it. If that sounds interesting and potentially fun, then the only way you can do it is by converting to fixed.

I have a single-speed road bike. It has no particular advantages (small weight savings, and chainline aside) over a multi-speed simply left in one gear, but it looks MUCH prettier, in my opinion, plus, when I'm riding, if I'm tempted to shift, I can't. There's a certain freedom to not ever having to think about changing gear, and if you still have all your gears, the thought is still there, I guess. It's not a big deal though. My two fixed gears are a completely different experience. I've posted my SS below - doesn't that make you want to get rid of the gears?

Sammyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 08:33 AM   #8
Peedtm
Tell them I hate them
 
Peedtm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Boise, ID
Bikes: Specialized Allez Epic '91, IRO Mark V Pro, Schwinn Traveler
Posts: 939
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timtruro View Post
So you recommend not converting ?
I can't say that outright in here can I? I'd suggest you set your bike up however you think you'd ride it the most, as that's really where you'll gain the most benefit regarding fitness and enjoyment.

Even though this forum is full of fg advocats, lots of people don't like it. If you want to just try it, just buy a cog and do the suicide hub route (keep your brakes on!)
Peedtm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 09:01 AM   #9
Timtruro
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Timtruro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Truro, MA
Bikes: Aegis Trident (Big Red)
Posts: 1,607
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammyboy View Post
If you want single-speed, the reasons for doing it properly, rather than simply leaving it in one gear, are mostly about it looking nice. Fixed, however, is a quite different riding experience. If you don't want to experience what it's like not to be able to coast, and to be able to slow down with your legs, then there's no reason to do it. If that sounds interesting and potentially fun, then the only way you can do it is by converting to fixed.

I have a single-speed road bike. It has no particular advantages (small weight savings, and chainline aside) over a multi-speed simply left in one gear, but it looks MUCH prettier, in my opinion, plus, when I'm riding, if I'm tempted to shift, I can't. There's a certain freedom to not ever having to think about changing gear, and if you still have all your gears, the thought is still there, I guess. It's not a big deal though. My two fixed gears are a completely different experience. I've posted my SS below - doesn't that make you want to get rid of the gears?


Sweet ride, and makes me think I should pursue the fixed gear conversion.
Timtruro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-08, 10:24 AM   #10
Sammyboy
The Legitimiser
 
Sammyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southampton, UK
Bikes: Gazelle Trim Trophy, EG Bates Track Bike, HR Bates Cantiflex bike, Nigel Dean fixed gear conversion, Raleigh Royal, Falcon Westminster.
Posts: 4,846
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thankyou! That one isn't fixed, it's single speed freewheel. My fixes are below - an EG Bates track bike (lots of fun, but a rattly ride, and the track fork doesn't like the front brake much. Soon to be used just for track), and a Nigel Dean conversion. This bike is ridiculous. I built it to look cool and it does, but more than about 6-7 miles and it's really getting uncomfortable. The fact is, I put a lot more miles on the SS bike than on either fix, which makes me think I ought to build another fixed gear, but on an appropriately sized road frame (the Nigel is too small, really), with a sensible, normal stem!


Sammyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:08 PM.