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    "Cycling & Track Racing, Vegan Style"

    http://cycling.thenoisies.com/

    An unrelated search landed the above site in my google search results.
    Some of the articles are pretty interesting for those with any interest in vegan lifestyles in conjunction with cycling.

    (other than that, though, it's mostly just a blog kept by a pseudo sponsored vegan track cyclist)
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    Road [racing] is one of the only sports where adult men can compete in a non-scholastic setting, so inevitably 8/10 racers are fiercely-competitive nobodies. It's fun as hell, but it's also the foremost refuge of defeated and aging jocks, turned middle-management types.

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    I remember passing this site a while ago and deciding not to browse it since I'm annoyed by sites that would be better off in non-blog form. But I'm glad to revisit it and actually read some of its material.

    Lactic acid is my friend. It helps to make my legs bend. Not so great is hydrogen. It helps to eat my veggies then.
    Hah. This guy is...interesting.

    A vegan side note: it turns out that this myth was created by our old foe vivisection (aka animal testing). In 1929 Archibald V. Hill would flex frog muscles to fatigue, and noticed at that point lactic acid was formed and declared it the enemy. Stupid vivisector!
    That's a telling anecdote. The predominant method of learning about life--by killing it and observing it in an inanimate state--has led to so many misconceived theories, and lots persist because doubts that arise from outside the mainstream of science have trouble debunking anything that came from/entered the mainstream. Now, this lactic acid myth should disappear quickly since there's so many practical reasons for the (more) correct theory to be embraced.

    I recently listened to a great discussion (from CBC Radio, the "Ideas" series) with a biologist who goes pretty far in his views against the typical practices of biological science. As crackpot as you may take his quasi-theories to be, his logic and observations of the sciences in general are insightful:
    http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/media/scienc...-sheldrake.ram
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    veganism is vegetable murder.

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    "During anaerobic glycolysis ..."

    BUT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycolysis, "Production of pyruvate for the citric acid cycle as part of aerobic respiration"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
    Road [racing] is one of the only sports where adult men can compete in a non-scholastic setting, so inevitably 8/10 racers are fiercely-competitive nobodies. It's fun as hell, but it's also the foremost refuge of defeated and aging jocks, turned middle-management types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenewblk View Post
    veganism is vegetable murder.
    clever

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    My bio book lies.
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    http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/media/scienc...-sheldrake.ram

    LOL, bearded chemist, first time I am hearing most of this.

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    a lot of these articles are pretty interesting. vegan yay.
    If you want to know about TARCK BIKES, pm me.

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    veganism is unsustainable.

    vegan straps ****ing suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeIndustryGuy View Post
    I guess the feel good aspect of this story is that the perpetrators did this as a couple. It's nice to see people coming together with a common love of cycling and assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelah View Post
    veganism is unsustainable.
    would you care to back this up?
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    he's going on the premise that vegan = toxic alternatives to leather being thrown in landfills.
    i'd advise not to pay him any mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
    Road [racing] is one of the only sports where adult men can compete in a non-scholastic setting, so inevitably 8/10 racers are fiercely-competitive nobodies. It's fun as hell, but it's also the foremost refuge of defeated and aging jocks, turned middle-management types.

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    Oh awesome - another vegan argument!
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    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    i just realized i've been vegan for 6 years. holy ****.

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    my mom's a vegan... it sucks.

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    man, freegan is the best.
    have:ea50 flats, black, light, stiff.
    144 bcd 3/32" 49t sugino track chainring, possibly 75.

    want: risers, light, stiff, 1", black if that can be
    144 bcd 46t or 47t chainring any kind or width

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    People aren't meant to be vegans, our natural diet included meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
    People aren't meant to be vegans, our natural diet included meat.
    Arguments about this are some of the most pointless ever. No one is gonna go start eating meat because someone on the internet told them their diet is unnatural. Humans are smart enough to be able to make the choice what they want to eat and if their morals think using animals for food is wrong who cares.

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    Animals have two jobs - be delicious and fit well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayvan cowboy View Post
    Arguments about this are some of the most pointless ever. No one is gonna go start eating meat because someone on the internet told them their diet is unnatural. Humans are smart enough to be able to make the choice what they want to eat and if their morals think using animals for food is wrong who cares.
    So animals have been eating other animals for millions and millions of years, but all the sudden it's "immoral"?

    Sure you could inject yourself with nutrients and eat white mush for every meal and live, but jesus, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM4 View Post
    Animals have two jobs - be delicious and fit well.
    Finally a GOOD argument against veganism.

    Question: Is it possible for an animal to fit well AND taste good? Or does the genetic modification for one automatically preclude the other? Not that there's anything wrong with killing two different animals to get food and clothing.
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    p&r

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
    So animals have been eating other animals for millions and millions of years, but all the sudden it's "immoral"?

    Sure you could inject yourself with nutrients and eat white mush for every meal and live, but jesus, why?
    You are now my new least-favorite poster. I mean ****, are you 12? Just go the **** away.
    Quote Originally Posted by doofo View Post
    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimArchy View Post
    Finally a GOOD argument against veganism.

    Question: Is it possible for an animal to fit well AND taste good? Or does the genetic modification for one automatically preclude the other? Not that there's anything wrong with killing two different animals to get food and clothing.
    Yes, I beleive it possible for a single animal to meet both needs. I am sure that I have worn leather shoes while eating a fillet from the same carcass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
    So animals have been eating other animals for millions and millions of years, but all the sudden it's "immoral"?

    Sure you could inject yourself with nutrients and eat white mush for every meal and live, but jesus, why?
    We invented "moral". We decide what it is. We developed to a certain point where we were able to reason logically. This reasoning process has led many to the idea that killing animals simply for the sake of nutrition, when other sources are easily available, is unnecessary.

    A lion can't decide that it isn't going to eat meat anymore. It doesn't have the ability to support itself long term on any other diet. We do.

    As for nutrients and white mush, I don't use or eat either and I ride hard and have fun (I'm probably one of the least healthy vegans you could find actually). And if you look at any "professional" athlete, vegan or not, a large portion of their day is spent taking supplements and eating unappetizing food.
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    I will derive power from their cries of despair. My crank a speedy dervish, spinning and spinning through the darkest night that anyone with the audacity to try and suck my wheel will ever see...

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