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Old 03-20-08, 12:57 PM   #1
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"Cycling & Track Racing, Vegan Style"

http://cycling.thenoisies.com/

An unrelated search landed the above site in my google search results.
Some of the articles are pretty interesting for those with any interest in vegan lifestyles in conjunction with cycling.

(other than that, though, it's mostly just a blog kept by a pseudo sponsored vegan track cyclist)
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Old 03-20-08, 01:23 PM   #2
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I remember passing this site a while ago and deciding not to browse it since I'm annoyed by sites that would be better off in non-blog form. But I'm glad to revisit it and actually read some of its material.

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Lactic acid is my friend. It helps to make my legs bend. Not so great is hydrogen. It helps to eat my veggies then.
Hah. This guy is...interesting.

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A vegan side note: it turns out that this myth was created by our old foe vivisection (aka animal testing). In 1929 Archibald V. Hill would flex frog muscles to fatigue, and noticed at that point lactic acid was formed and declared it the enemy. Stupid vivisector!
That's a telling anecdote. The predominant method of learning about life--by killing it and observing it in an inanimate state--has led to so many misconceived theories, and lots persist because doubts that arise from outside the mainstream of science have trouble debunking anything that came from/entered the mainstream. Now, this lactic acid myth should disappear quickly since there's so many practical reasons for the (more) correct theory to be embraced.

I recently listened to a great discussion (from CBC Radio, the "Ideas" series) with a biologist who goes pretty far in his views against the typical practices of biological science. As crackpot as you may take his quasi-theories to be, his logic and observations of the sciences in general are insightful:
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/media/scienc...-sheldrake.ram

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Old 03-20-08, 01:47 PM   #3
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veganism is vegetable murder.
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"During anaerobic glycolysis ..."

BUT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycolysis, "Production of pyruvate for the citric acid cycle as part of aerobic respiration"
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huh?
http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepage.cfm?ID=859111481
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My bio book lies.
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http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/media/scienc...-sheldrake.ram

LOL, bearded chemist, first time I am hearing most of this.
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a lot of these articles are pretty interesting. vegan yay.
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veganism is unsustainable.

vegan straps ****ing suck.
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Vegan badass.

http://www.mollycameron.com/
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would you care to back this up?
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he's going on the premise that vegan = toxic alternatives to leather being thrown in landfills.
i'd advise not to pay him any mind.
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Oh awesome - another vegan argument!
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i just realized i've been vegan for 6 years. holy ****.
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my mom's a vegan... it sucks.
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man, freegan is the best.
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People aren't meant to be vegans, our natural diet included meat.
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People aren't meant to be vegans, our natural diet included meat.
Arguments about this are some of the most pointless ever. No one is gonna go start eating meat because someone on the internet told them their diet is unnatural. Humans are smart enough to be able to make the choice what they want to eat and if their morals think using animals for food is wrong who cares.
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Animals have two jobs - be delicious and fit well.
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Arguments about this are some of the most pointless ever. No one is gonna go start eating meat because someone on the internet told them their diet is unnatural. Humans are smart enough to be able to make the choice what they want to eat and if their morals think using animals for food is wrong who cares.
So animals have been eating other animals for millions and millions of years, but all the sudden it's "immoral"?

Sure you could inject yourself with nutrients and eat white mush for every meal and live, but jesus, why?
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Animals have two jobs - be delicious and fit well.
Finally a GOOD argument against veganism.

Question: Is it possible for an animal to fit well AND taste good? Or does the genetic modification for one automatically preclude the other? Not that there's anything wrong with killing two different animals to get food and clothing.
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So animals have been eating other animals for millions and millions of years, but all the sudden it's "immoral"?

Sure you could inject yourself with nutrients and eat white mush for every meal and live, but jesus, why?
You are now my new least-favorite poster. I mean ****, are you 12? Just go the **** away.
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Finally a GOOD argument against veganism.

Question: Is it possible for an animal to fit well AND taste good? Or does the genetic modification for one automatically preclude the other? Not that there's anything wrong with killing two different animals to get food and clothing.
Yes, I beleive it possible for a single animal to meet both needs. I am sure that I have worn leather shoes while eating a fillet from the same carcass.
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So animals have been eating other animals for millions and millions of years, but all the sudden it's "immoral"?

Sure you could inject yourself with nutrients and eat white mush for every meal and live, but jesus, why?
We invented "moral". We decide what it is. We developed to a certain point where we were able to reason logically. This reasoning process has led many to the idea that killing animals simply for the sake of nutrition, when other sources are easily available, is unnecessary.

A lion can't decide that it isn't going to eat meat anymore. It doesn't have the ability to support itself long term on any other diet. We do.

As for nutrients and white mush, I don't use or eat either and I ride hard and have fun (I'm probably one of the least healthy vegans you could find actually). And if you look at any "professional" athlete, vegan or not, a large portion of their day is spent taking supplements and eating unappetizing food.
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