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Old 03-21-08, 01:03 PM   #1
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Stuck Lockring

I searched and couldnt find anything to help me out, so here it is:
I switched from a 17t to a 15t a couple days ago and found the 77 gear inches too beastly for myself. Today, I go to try and change my cog back to the 17, bust out the lockring spanner and try and take off the lockring and it's stuck. Anyways, I was hoping someone would have had a similar experience and could tell me what they did about it or at least someone would have some ideas for remedies besides me busting my knuckles on spokes for another 20 minutes.
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Old 03-21-08, 01:10 PM   #2
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Put the spanner in a vice and turn the wheel instead of the wrench.

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Get a pair of thick work gloves to protect your hands and then go at it.
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Put the spanner in a vice and turn the wheel instead of the wrench.

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Get a pair of thick work gloves to protect your hands and then go at it.
I thick work glove + toweled my hands and they still hurt, I might give the vice a shot, but the spanner is pretty janky and I dont think I could finesse a whole wheel enough to make it engage.
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if all else fails, a chisel positioned in the notch whacked with a heavy hammer should do the trick within a couple blows. just position the chisel so that it won't damage the notch when you strike it. i find that putting the wheel on a chair and working it from the top works well.
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if all else fails, a chisel positioned in the notch whacked with a heavy hammer should do the trick within a couple blows. just position the chisel so that it won't damage the notch when you strike it. i find that putting the wheel on a chair and working it from the top works well.
ugh, I dont want to resort to this because the last thing I want is an effed hub/axel.
*groan*
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ugh, I dont want to resort to this because the last thing I want is an effed hub/axel.
*groan*
you won't "eff" your hub or axle. just take your time and be smart about it.
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you won't "eff" your hub or axle. just take your time and be smart about it.
haha, well, perhaps I'll give it a shot. Back with an update after David vs. Lockring round 2.
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When I have to remove a lockring, I almost always resort to the hammer method. Usually, I hold the spanner wrench on the lockring with one hand and whack the other end with a mallet. That way, you get the striking force of the hammer multiplied by the length of the wrench, plus you don't really risk damaging your hub with a chisel.
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psst. reverse threaded...haha im kidding.
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psst. reverse threaded...haha im kidding.
Hahahaha, thought about it, but I'm going the "right" way.
I guess I'll try the spanner+hammer idea.
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Have you checked if the cog has spun back a bit,tightening against the lockring.
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Have you checked if the cog has spun back a bit,tightening against the lockring.
no, i havent, should I just rotafix the cog on as tight as possible and then try again?
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I think it's worth a try.It worked for me in the past and seems better tha trying the hammer methods right away.
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Have you checked if the cog has spun back a bit,tightening against the lockring.
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I gave it a shot, I'm bummin hard so I'm taking a break, it didnt seem to work out...grrrrrr.
Any more suggestions?
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try yelling and cursing at it.
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try yelling and cursing at it.
tried.
no dice.
This lockring tool is pretty janky, as I said before, but I cant complain as I borrowed it from Jgarcia, who was nice enough to drive it to my house
I really should invest in some nice tools.
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I guess it's hammer or cheaterbar.
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Cheater bars can work wonders.
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Cheater bars can work wonders.
I call it a fixin pipe.
I'll give it a shot, the problem is the lack of control that is necessary to engage the lockring spanner.
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Make it someone elses problem, swap wheels.
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If all else fails, maybe a new spanner would do the job?
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If all else fails, maybe a new spanner would do the job?
looks like thats the situation...
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I have a nasty case of STUCK CO... I mean LOCKRING. The cog and lockring were attached at the LBS in the place where I used to live, so I can't go back there.

* Tried the Hozan Lockring Tool. No go.
* Tried heat. Didn't work.
* Applied lots of WD40. Didn't really help.
* Tried hammer + screwdriver method.
* I tried to tighten the cog more, to free up space between cog and lockring. But the cog is so impossibly tight already that I can't turn it any further.

Are there any other options besides destroying lockring (and also lockring threads)?
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Did you try the previously mentioned Hozan lockring tool + big pipe to increase leverage?
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