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Old 03-23-08, 10:17 PM
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its because americans have a ****ed up sense of pronunciation.

my favorite example: tae

tae is not tai it is tae. tai is tai. kei is not key, it is kei. if they wanted it to sound like key, they'd have spelled it that way.
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Originally Posted by doomkin
its because americans have a ****ed up sense of pronunciation.

my favorite example: tae

tae is not tai it is tae. tai is tai. kei is not key, it is kei. if they wanted it to sound like key, they'd have spelled it that way.
Oh man, don't get me started on romanizing Korean names. Everyday I meet 30 new Korean children. They all have to make nametags and write their names out in English. There are several standarized methods for doing this but the kids usually have they're own way of spelling their names. When I go and read the name and mispronounce it, I instantly have thirty kids shouting and laughing, either correcting me or making fun of their friend who just had their name mispronounced.

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Originally Posted by doomkin
its because americans have a ****ed up sense of pronunciation.

my favorite example: tae

tae is not tai it is tae. tai is tai. kei is not key, it is kei. if they wanted it to sound like key, they'd have spelled it that way.
you are either prejudiced against americans or misinformed of how languages work as a whole.

how do you think romance languages differed even though they all came from latin, hmm? different places adopt different tongues, see the same word and pronounce it differently. it's human nature, don't try to blame it on one isolated group of people throughout history.
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Originally Posted by andre nickatina
you are either prejudiced against americans or misinformed of how languages work as a whole.

how do you think romance languages differed even though they all came from latin, hmm? different places adopt different tongues, see the same word and pronounce it differently. it's human nature, don't try to blame it on one isolated group of people throughout history.

americans are dumb and misinformed when it comes to the world. how many times have u watched CNN, CNBC or any other major national news channel and the newscasters pronounced Iraq/Iran as I-Rag/I-Ran?

atleast the BBC news would take their time and call up the embassies and ask about the correct pronunciation of foreign names and words. this is called respect.

just look at the commentaries by british commentators in F1 and football (btw it's not and never "soccer") too.

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whatever dude, it goes both ways. i'm still right even if some american commentators may not take their pronunciations so seriously.
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whatever dude, it goes both ways. i'm still right even if some american commentators may not take their pronunciations so seriously.
yeah you don't really have to look that far... jsut look at your head of state.

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ouch, insulted for a man whom i actively insult and lampoon. touche.
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Originally Posted by terrenceterrenc
yeah you don't really have to look that far... jsut look at your head of state.

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How is this different than people who speak Asian languages mispronouncing English words? Sometimes there isn't an exactly analogous sound between two languages. It's ok to think that foreigners mispronunciations of words is amusing or stupid, as long as you're ok with your own mispronunciation of foreign words being amusing or stupid to someone else.
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Originally Posted by terrenceterrenc
americans are dumb and misinformed when it comes to the world. how many times have u watched CNN, CNBC or any other major national news channel and the newscasters pronounced Iraq/Iran as I-Rag/I-Ran?

atleast the BBC news would take their time and call up the embassies and ask about the correct pronunciation of foreign names and words. this is called respect.
I listen to the radio basically all day, and I can assure you that plenty of BBC reporters mispronounce a litany of words, including "Iraq." Similarly, there are plenty of American commentators who pronounce Iraq "properly" (if there is a proper English-language pronunciation, and some would argue there isn't). Making a blanket statement like this is absurd.

Andre is right, comments like this show an ignorance and an anti-American bias that makes no sense. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with language can tell you that he's correct.

Originally Posted by terrenceterrenc
just look at the commentaries by british commentators in F1 and football (btw it's not and never "soccer") too.

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This is a wildly misinformed comment.

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it is soo gih no....all syllables very short and even.
keirin is the same ... kay rin/lin with both syllables even and short.
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how should we say "iran"? "EE-ran"? I-ran is how it is pronounced in america. just like Deutchland is pronounced Germany. Italia Italy, España Spain.

Localization mother****er
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Korean romanization lesson:

The "dai" in hyundai is put together using Hangul (Korean phonetic characters) with d, a, i, but the a&i together sound like ae (eh).
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how should we say "iran"? "EE-ran"
I think its ear-rah-n.
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this has nothign to do with americans not being able to pronounce foreign names. yes, there are sounds that americans simply cannot make. but on the other hand there are names americans refuse to care about pronounce properly. this is what bugs me.

you cannot expect people in asia to prounce an R properly or an L, P, F whatever. the sounds simply don't exist. on the other hand, americans are fully capable of knowing the difference between AI and AE but they simply don't care to make the extra effort to sound it out.
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So tell me, why do they say pisto or pisuto in Japan, doomkin?
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This is awesome. You never know what random argument you will find in any given thread.
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This is awesome. You never know what random argument you will find in any given thread.
yeah where's the OP?
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Get it right you ignorant Americans!
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Originally Posted by terrenceterrenc
americans are dumb and misinformed when it comes to the world. how many times have u watched CNN, CNBC or any other major national news channel and the newscasters pronounced Iraq/Iran as I-Rag/I-Ran?

atleast the BBC news would take their time and call up the embassies and ask about the correct pronunciation of foreign names and words. this is called respect.

just look at the commentaries by british commentators in F1 and football (btw it's not and never "soccer") too.

cheers
A+ job at not knowing **** about what you're talking about.
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