i want to make a commuter. maybe with an internally geared hub.
i like the speciale commuter, though according to masi there aren't plans to sell it as a frameset. don't know if it would be worth $700 if i end up switching out the wheels, crank, seat, and post. if i can get a good deal on the salsa i could see myself going with that, relatively light frame, and i think i'd be fine without cantis.
How about any of the tons of old road bikes that were hand-made by skilled or master builders with better tubing, and are cheaper to boot? You can get an old 531 Trek with all your specs for ~$100.
yeah i know, see the second sentence of the original post. $100 might be optimistic for a nice 620 or 720 from the 1980s, they're kind of collectible. the miyata 1000s are always pretty sought after too.
apparently last year's casseroll framesets went for under $300 on jensonusa toward the end of the season. at that price i'm not sure if even the nicer 531 or other classic frames could compete.
i'd like to know how 531/columbus sl/ishiwata 022/tange #1 actually compare to today's steels.
I apologize, I did skip that second sentence, but I promise, I read everything else.
Two complete Trek 620s with 531 tubing sold for $240 and $400 respectively. That's for a while bike, not a frame, mind you.
You're right that 531 for $100 is a little optimistic, but it's not too far off. They seem to hover between the $100-$200 mark, at least for the ones I've watched. A 52cm 501 frame with a few nicks and scratches, but all your requirements, sold for $62 last week.
Originally Posted by doofo
the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike
you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination