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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 03-26-08, 03:57 PM   #1
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Starting a new project.

After building/restoring two single speeds, I've decided to build a fixed. Got this frame for $20. Seems to be in pretty decent shape, and has lots of reusable parts. The label says it's a "Sturdee", which probably means it's crap, but it should be a fun build either way.

Anybody know anything about this bike?

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is it a fuji? It looks alot like a fuji sport i got that someone was throwing out.. I believe mine was a 1982/83 model..

I had a old kilo tt wheelset i threw on.. and a new chain..

It makes a good beater bike.. or loaner

but you'll probably want a new crankset.. and front brake will be a long reach brake if the bike had 27" wheels..
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Old 03-26-08, 04:55 PM   #3
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The headtube badge says "Sturdee." As for the front brake not reaching...is that because of how high the bars are? That's how they came when I picked it up. When I put it all back together it will probably be siting on top of the headset.
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The reach on a brake is the distance from the bolt to the pad.If you are gonna use 700c instead of 27" the reach has to be a bit longer.

+1 on loosing that crank
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You may want to ask in the vintage section.. they may be able to tell you something about the make.

I have the same crankset on my fuji.. you'd have to replace it to make it a single, since it doesnt have regular chainring bolts.. its all built together on this one.
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Actually, I was able to get the crank all pulled apart, and I'm left with the large chainring, which is a 46t. It polished up really nice too. Other than being a tad bit heavy, I'm going to leave it be for now. The markings on it are "Sugino Proto Japan." They're pretty cool, imo.
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Actually, I was able to get the crank all pulled apart, and I'm left with the large chainring, which is a 46t. It polished up really nice too. Other than being a tad bit heavy, I'm going to leave it be for now. The markings on it are "Sugino Proto Japan." They're pretty cool, imo.
That's cool. that's what I did with my conversion for a while, until people at the local co-op said I should probably get new cranks because those aren't meant for "fixed use"

That might have some truth, in that skipping, backpedalling, etc might put more stress on them. But in all honesty they should probably hold.
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Yes mine has Sugino as well...
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Is it just me or do those forks look bent?
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And as far as the cranks are concerned.....Good luck getting a good chain line running on the outer ring. Every conversion I've done I needed to use the inner to get a decent chain line.
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They look bent, clearly.
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And as far as the cranks are concerned.....Good luck getting a good chain line running on the outer ring. Every conversion I've done I needed to use the inner to get a decent chain line.

On my wifes single speed I ground off the two smaller rings and was able to get a fine chainline. We'll see how this goes. If not, I'll just have to buy some cheap replacements.
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They look bent, clearly.
Uhhhh, they're bent like that from the factory. I checked them thoroughly and they are fine.
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Here's a picture of the crank arm and ring after I cleaned it up a bit:
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How did you get the cranks off, I had a old bike with those sort of cranks, I couldn't solve the problem of getting them off.
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How did you get the cranks off, I had a old bike with those sort of cranks, I couldn't solve the problem of getting them off.
Luckily on these cranks, the larger ring is attached to the arm, instead of it being attached to the smaller ring, and the larger rings attached to that. Because of this I was able to grind off the rivets from the back side and the smaller ring and the guard just fell right off.
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+100 on losing the cranks...you really want an integrated spider. The forks DO look to be bent from a front end collision. Look at the angle of the steer tube in relation to the vertical section before the bend. Not worth a dental visit. Check it really well before committing, it could just be the angle of the shot. Otherwise seems a fine cantidate for a fixed gear conversion.
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If you're gonna use a brake the cranks are probably gonna be ok.Those cotterpins usually don't like skidding or heavy resisting.
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+100 on losing the cranks...you really want an integrated spider. The forks DO look to be bent from a front end collision. Look at the angle of the steer tube in relation to the vertical section before the bend. Not worth a dental visit. Check it really well before committing, it could just be the angle of the shot. Otherwise seems a fine cantidate for a fixed gear conversion.
I believe it's just a slight shadow across the crown of the fork making it look slightly askew. I see what you're saying, but like I said, I checked it out and everything appears straight and true. I don't see any creases or bends in the steerer tube, and there is no cracking or seperation in the welds where the steerer meets the crown, or where the blades meet the crown. The bars were turning freely and smoothly as well. I guess it could just be slightly shoddy construction from the factory. I do notice that the top tube has a miniscule bend where it meets both lugs, so who knows.

The bike seems sound and rideable, so I'll just chalk it all up to adding a bit of character.

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If you're gonna use a brake the cranks are probably gonna be ok.Those cotterpins usually don't like skidding or heavy resisting.
Like I said, I'll give them a try. I hate to throw something out that has obviously worked on the bike this long, and that are still in good shape.

How hard would it be to source a new BB for a bike like this anyways?
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A new spindle might be difficult but if the shell is english,any lbs should have cups for it.
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Paint is done and now curing. Used a gold leaf paint pen to accent the lugs. Turned out alright, but there are a few mistakes I'm sure I'll get over.





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Interested to see how this one turns out - there is a frame on the Bay by the same that I am thinking about fixing up....

Questions - are there eyelets on the front fork for a rack? Also - the one I am looking at has what looks like a Reynolds 531 sticker.....did yours have any indications?

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Lookin' good already.
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nice green.. in the first pic it looks black
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