roderage

nice overlap.

sp00ki

i get exactly 1/8" overlap with that setup (700c, 25mm) at the very most.

Lenkeit

Soma is murder.

Their synthetic straps delam and tear/rip apart.

Their leather straps are shoddy at best. You get what you pay for.

dayvan cowboy

this thread reminds me I need to buy new straps.

Judge_Posner

sp00ki how is that double strap combo working out? i remember you waiting eagerly for the arrival of the soma quad gates. happy with that setup?

acoldspoon

Straps that tuck in weren't just popular for track racers being held at starts. I used to tuck my straps in for time trails all the time. Sometimes when road racing I'd do it too, but I usually had buttons installed as I do now. In any event where one is sprinting full out, tucking makes some sense, but so does a second strap.

dobber

Velcro

nocash

there ugly but effective

sp00ki

very very very much so.
i honestly wasn't expecting them to offer as much of a gain over singles as they do. the power transfer when climbing and stopping approach that of a clipless setup once dialed in (it took two or three days of riding to get the primary/secondary strap balance squared away) without needing overtightening.
they're great, especially when combined with the mks cleat-as-a-platform i have going on.
my gf now has a set w/ two singles too; i'm considering buying a few more pair for our beaters.

mastershake916

Somagreen is people!

slopvehicle

I don't think I've ever seen a fixed gear rider tighten their straps down in moving traffic. Loose feet sliding around the pedal within the space allowed by the loose straps / clips-- that's the norm, and it's good enough for just about anything but racing.

For all the hate "platforms with no foot retention" get, those pins seem to offer just about the same amount of slip protection as the loose straps these critics probably run.

sp00ki

uh...
i keep my straps snug. so do most of the riders i know. not sure what norm you're taking about.
loose straps negate the upstroke, which means you're not accelerating fast, and you're not climbing hard.
the first thing i notice with loose straps is how my feet bounce up and down in the clip.
if you're riding with loose straps, you should probably take a moment and think about why you even wear them. they're there for a reason.

patrick.decker@

plus even with a loose strap you still have SOME upstroke power, even if only for stopping, while the silly platforms and those pins do not in ANY way give you upstroke power.

my point is it isn't all about not slipping.

LóFarkas

I used to ride with loose straps... still allow you to hop up curbs and stuff. Snug straps are a bit scary in traffic, thinking of "what if I have to stop suddenly?". IIRC I did a left-snug-right-loose regime for a while

Now I ride clipless.

zelah

if they did have a place, all you'd have to do is unscrew the buttons and then put them back on after you tucked them in..........

sp00ki

i don't think it was meant to be un/re-screwed very often at all... i think that's part of the point of their doing it that way.
after spending some time getting the straps exactly the way i wanted (which i'll probably have to do again if the straps ever stretch), i realized that not having to deal with tucking a strap into a buckle is kindof a smart idea.

i wonder if the buttons are sold independently of straps...

zelah

i don't know about campy ones but toshi ones are for sure

https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...f6a46f4d3a36b6

Johnny Nemo

yes... delicious, ketchup covered murder !

trace215

Just sayin

Oh No

honestly how can someone who is a so-called "poser" (like me) afford a nagasawa?

Zombie Carl

I think you misunderstand the word poser. It isn't intended to convey any economic information.

Summer job?

zelah

hahaha don't you see zombie carl, he's way too rich to be a poser

Oh No

im just saying generally posers wouldn't know a nagasawa from a debernardi namsayin

morbot

seems to me that if you tighten your straps so that in order to get out you have to loosen them, you either have to be supremely confident in your trackstands, or never do them at all.

queerpunk

when i rode straps - tightened always - i found that it wasn't hard at all to reach down and touch the clasp to loosen the strap. all it takes is a touch. that comes from basic balance and slow-speed riding skills, which every rider should take the time to develop.