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Old 04-16-08, 06:32 AM   #1
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I went down because of a vehicle for the first time this morning...

And it was pretty much 100% my fault. I've been commuting by bike to work for almost a year now, and besides a slip on some black ice over the winter I've been blessed with the good fortune of only having a few near misses. All that changed this morning. I was riding on the right hand side of the road this morning, less than a block away from work when a truck passed me. The truck was towing a flat-bed trailer that was slightly wider than the truck itself and ended up brushing up against me as it passed and completely took my bike out from under me and tossed me to the ground. Luckily, there no cars immediately behind me and I landed mostly on my side. My only injuries were a minor elbow scrape, some road rash on my butt and the ruination of one of my favorite pairs of pants. The bike appears to be fine, except for some metal scraped off the pedal that hit the ground and a shattered pedal reflector.
The driver was aware/polite/law-abiding enough to stop. He seemed surprised that a) I had gotten up so fast, b) I took responsibility for the accident, "Sorry, I really shouldn't have been riding on the right between you and the curb like that, I should've just taken the lane...thanks for stopping." and c) I had a sense of humor and a smile on my face.
Anyways, be careful out there and learn from my mistake: take the lane as often as possible, and be as aware and observant as you can.
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Old 04-16-08, 06:37 AM   #2
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Glad you're ok but I don't see how this is your fault. A vehicle struck you while passing, your position in the lane is irrelevant.
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Old 04-16-08, 06:39 AM   #3
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i don't see how getting clipped by a trailer is your fault. Most of the time with road cycling you stick to the right-hand side of the lane if the shoulder is too narrow. it is then the responsibility of drivers not to hit you if they decide to pass. in my opinion, you messed up big time by admitting fault.
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Old 04-16-08, 06:40 AM   #4
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It's not your fault at all from the sound of it, but I won't touch the 'take the lane' issue.
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Old 04-16-08, 06:46 AM   #5
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It's good to hear you came up smiling. Eating the pavement is part of riding, and way easier if you pretend to like it
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Old 04-16-08, 06:53 AM   #6
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I can see it being your fault only in the sense that you might've been able to take the lane to prevent it. It is still his fault that you were hit while he was passing.
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Old 04-16-08, 06:59 AM   #7
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After reading some of these replies, I should clarify that I feel at fault for putting myself in the position to be clipped, not for the actual clipping and ensuing accident. I could have waited and let the truck pass at the intersection we were stopped at before the accident happened instead of riding on the right and giving the driver the option to pass. Along with admitting that it was partially my fault, I did tell the driver he should recognize the possible hazards created by the trailer he was towing, which he acknowledged and apologized for.
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Old 04-16-08, 07:13 AM   #8
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please don't turn this into a "you need to hire a lawyer" thread. m-dub, glad to hear you are ok and you took some responsibility in your accident. your reaction to the accident may have changed the truck driver's opinion of cyclists. i will give you a gold star for the day.
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Old 04-16-08, 07:26 AM   #9
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Thanks for the clarification M-Dub. Like you, I always look at what I could have done to have avoided the accidents I've had since the one thing I have total control over when riding is me. I can't control drivers but I can pick my route, my time of day, my position in the lane, how I set up and maintain my bikes, etc., so as to minimize my chances of an accident. Whether it's your fault or not, you'll live a lot longer if you look at what you could have done to avoid an accident.
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Old 04-16-08, 07:29 AM   #10
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that sucks, but it seems like both of you were good sports about it. i wouldnt say its your fault, but its more important that you or your bike didnt get damaged...
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Old 04-16-08, 07:50 AM   #11
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Its totally the bike's fault. Trucks are importantant big machines vital to our economy! They need the whole lane. Bicycles are toys that should be ridden in parks where it's safe... When you see a truck, get off the road!
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Its totally the bike's fault. Trucks are importantant big machines vital to our economy! They need the whole lane. Bicycles are toys that should be ridden in parks where it's safe... When you see a truck, get off the road!
yeah! stupid bikes!

Glad to hear you're OK man, sounds like a perfect situation post-accident as any I've ever read, good for you both for manning up and being the better guy.
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Old 04-16-08, 09:02 AM   #13
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Its totally the bike's fault. Trucks are importantant big machines vital to our economy! They need the whole lane. Bicycles are toys that should be ridden in parks where it's safe... When you see a truck, get off the road!
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Old 04-16-08, 09:46 AM   #14
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I know in many states it is illegal to pass within 3 feet of a cyclist, regardless of their position, so I would say it's far from your fault, though I'm glad you took the high road and made what I would say is the best decision in the situation.
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Now whenever this trucker hits someone he's going to be like, it was your f ault for not riding somewhere where I wouldn't hit you.

He's probably going to also tell all his friends so they do the same thing.

Hey Al, did you know that if the cyclist rides anywhere where you can hit them it's their fault if you do?

Awesome.
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Old 04-16-08, 12:42 PM   #16
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I have nothing but respect for how nice you are. Dude wouldn't of had windows had I had my way.
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WRT the take-the-lane thing, I got cut off this morning on the way to work, and I was right in the middle of the lane. The only benefit for me was that I had an extra 5' between me and the line of parked cars in which to stop. Be careful out there, and definitely let the drivers know when they done wrong.
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You are not at fault for this incident.

An overtaking vehicle must be sure that they are clear of any other vehicles when overtaking on the left.

Glad to hear you made it alive either way !!!
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It was not your fault.
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jews should appologize for being in germany during the holocaust
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I almost went down this morning. Minivan nudged me.. into the side of a delivery truck. Went wobbly so I grabbed onto the van for support. Yay for staying upright!
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After reading some of these replies, I should clarify that I feel at fault for putting myself in the position to be clipped, not for the actual clipping and ensuing accident. I could have waited and let the truck pass at the intersection we were stopped at before the accident happened instead of riding on the right and giving the driver the option to pass. Along with admitting that it was partially my fault, I did tell the driver he should recognize the possible hazards created by the trailer he was towing, which he acknowledged and apologized for.
That is the great attitude and thought process: "How could I have prevented this?"

But legally (and morally assuming you did not wave them to pass you) the passing truck driver was at fault 100% - they are required by law to pass another vehicle safely no matter what your lane position was, they are required by law to pass safely even if you encourage them to pass you.

I would absolutely not have told the driver that you took any responsibility, because from a legal perspective you have none. The fault that you feel is yours to own, learn from and keep to yourself - that is good but it is none of the other parties business.

I wonder if you have a rear view mirror and if you had could you have better known (by seeing the trailer) to not encourage the truck driver to pass?

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If you "take the lane" you better be able to keep the lane (pedal fast enough, block cars, act tough ) or its fine for a Truck to run you off the road. He just took the lane back!. Think about that before taking your next lane...
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when i take the lane i hold a berretta in the air so people know i's serious biddnes.
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