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Old 04-17-08, 09:25 AM   #1
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well my lockring just came out.

it wasn't me slipping on pebbles. my lockring pretty much shat itself and popped off this morning. it took some threading with it, too.

this means i need a new hub doesn't it. god damnit.

i'm at school now and i still haven't gotten a chance to order myself a brake. so i'm brakeless and i can only pedal forward. too much backpedaling will kill me again. i've been jamming my foot in the tires to slow down, and it's harder than on a bmx.


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**** dude, that sucks. ive actually heard of somebody getting their stripped hub re-threaded, so before throwing down for a whole new hub, i'd investigate that avenue, you might be able to save some bucks
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there's an LBS around here but i have homework i need to get done! i dont have time!

how much does re-threading cost? any estimate?
like.. when my lockring came out you could see the threading that came off. it looked like a real thin black ring. i knew it shit the bed.

and if i can't get it rethreaded, what are some good hubs? i know about phil wood but are there any cheap hubs that are still relatively good?
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Old 04-17-08, 09:39 AM   #4
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formula, you can probably find a back for like, 50 or less. What hub was it that you stripped?
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i believe it's a joytech, the ones that come on masi speciale fixeds.

so formula is good? i ride brakeless and my life is depending on this.

how about surly hubs? are they any good?

the phil wood hub i'm looking at is $154. that's like my limit.
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mich are about 60...u can probably find a dimension for around 40 if u know where to look
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If you get it re threaded, you're going to have to get a lock ring made that fits those threads. Also you're going to have to disassemble the wheel, then have it lathed, and then rebuilt. If you get a new hub you'll have to get new spokes probably unless it's exact same. I just did this to my PW hub, so I feel your pain.
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okay which out of this list make good track hubs?
i already looked at formula and they dont carry the track ones.

i say this because i could get a good price on these since i work for them.
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A lot of people like the campy's and the phils. though for cheap surly hubs (I believe) are rebranded formulas.
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I have been riding with out a lockring, but I do have a font brake. Just take it easy, I haven't loosened the cog yet, and I even initiated some skids.

I'm on the hunt for a new hub too, been for a long while now.
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i managed to hand-screw it back on (which means it's not totally shot). the lockring i mean. i tightened the cog by just applying torque to it through the pedals. of course hand-screwing it on doesn't mean anything and i'll still take it easy but is this hub still useable if i tighten it up all the way properly? with loctite? or is that not recommended?
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The dimension track hubs are fine and inexpensive. I've got some that I've laced up, but not used yet, but I hear only good things about them. I've not heard many reports of them stripping easily so I'd just go with those and save yourself some cash.
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if you're riding brakeless, i wouldnt trust anything less than a brand new hub and lockring.
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i think if i get a new hub i'm going to give in and get some velocity deep v's....

is it easy to assemble a wheel? like lacing it and all that? if i can do that i'll just get the bike guys to true it for me
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though for cheap surly hubs (I believe) are rebranded formulas.
No No No No NO NOO

Surly hub.



Formula hub



Not the same.

Surlys are also more expensive than Formulas.
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are they better? i found out my hub WAS a formula and, though good, i'd like an upgrade if i can
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i think if i get a new hub i'm going to give in and get some velocity deep v's....

is it easy to assemble a wheel? like lacing it and all that? if i can do that i'll just get the bike guys to true it for me
Find an online instruction guide. Should be easy if you're not tensioning yourself. Mention it's your first when you take it in to be brought up to tension. They'll look it over free as they true/round it to make sure you didn't make any mistakes.


With deep v's you'll have trouble getting the nipple through the rim. Use a tooth pick or screw the top of the nipple onto a spare spoke.
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I like them and would consider them a slight upgrade. Others may come along and say that they're pretty much the same quality, and they may be right too.

If I were you, I'd just get whichever, and make sure I properly put on a good cog and ring.
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It's not ideal..... but try the Rotafix. The Hub is already shot, and it cant be any less safe than shoving your foot in the wheel. I had a similar lockring problem, and the bike I ride the rotafix'ed ring on has brakes, but it has never slipped on pretty aggressive skids.

as long as you are still riding the bike you might as well get the ring as tight as possible, it might buy you a little time so you can figure out what you want to upgrade to.
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wow... rotafix makes the lockring unnecessary?!?
http://204.73.203.34/fisso/eng/schpignone.htm

really? hmm but if i still put the lockring on, and some loctite, it wont go nowhere will it?
the hub isnt totally stripped, just partially.
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I tried rotafixing, maybe it wasn't tight enough, but I was able to loosen the cog at will (while riding).
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Is your fork drilled or does it have braze-ons for canti type brakes? Installing a brake isn't impossible.

I found a 4eu POS canti brake set (front and rear) at the hardware store, and with salmon pads they provide tons of stopping power, in good weather. Ha, I just thought, for the price of the kool stop pads I could have got 3 sets (6 brakes and 12 pads, everything sept the lever and cable).
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my bike came with brakes lol i just haven't found a cross lever i could use yet. i put flip chops on it and dont like the drop brakes.
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