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Old 04-20-08, 04:03 AM   #1
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Dropout damage

I have noticed that my trek classic cruiser has dropout damage due to axle creep,it uses those bolts and having repaired about 100 flats I have noticed the coaster brake bolt has done real damage to my dropouts. Is it worth getting the frame rebrazed with new dropouts or should I just leave it until whatever happens.

IYou know I like cruiser bikes because of the handlebars and no cables,but this bike really costed me about $400 worth of irritation and aggravation to the point that I am ready to take the loss and buy a walmart type bike.I could imagine how much the repairs would cost me at the bike shop.

Even though it only costed me $200,I regret it and am stuck with it.
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Old 04-20-08, 04:47 AM   #2
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why would you ever waste money on a walmart bike
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Old 04-20-08, 08:15 AM   #3
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It appears I wasted money on a trek with the problems I have with it.All they hype about trek on this and many boards and it ain't even covered under warranty.The only difference is that i would have wasted less money.

trek problems

broken spokes(had to relace my whole wheel)

broken seat(replaced)

rusted seat post to the frame(used a pipe wrench to turn it and damaged the paint)

damaged drop out from the bolts

This is not a wal-mart bike this is a TREK.CALL THIS QUALITY?
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Old 04-20-08, 08:48 AM   #4
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What kind of damage are you speaking of. Post pics of it if you are able. I'm unsure of what what kind of damage to the dropouts could result from simple tire changes over the years. 100 flats is a lot, so I assume this is over an extended period of time.

As far as the quality of Trek goes, they have the full range of bikes from cheap $400 to top of the line $4,000+ machines. You get what you pay for, although even an inexpensive ride will last if cared for, maintained and upgraded as needed.

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broken spokes(had to relace my whole wheel)

broken seat(replaced)

rusted seat post to the frame(used a pipe wrench to turn it and damaged the paint)
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damaged drop out from the bolts
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used a pipe wrench to turn it
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Old 04-20-08, 09:07 AM   #6
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*****ATTN EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD*****

Ignore this guy. No matter what you say, he won't listen.
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haha since when does SSFG back trek? since when does some rusted out cruiser suddenly represent a brand?

go buy that walmart bike, but don't bother to check the front quickrelease before you take off, i want it to be a surprise when you wake up in the hospital.

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Yes these bike are steel and steel dont bend like alum does
haha you idiot steel is the metal that bends when it comes to frames, aluminum just cracks

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i dont live in amsterdam, I live in the ghetto in chicago,not to be racist here but i live in a majority negro neighborhood and they do not like the bike and laugh at me when I am riding it.They like the wal-mart bikes better.
hahahhaha those silly negros when will they learn

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Oh for ****s sake people, this guy has been ranting about this garbage in many threads already. None of his posts warrant any sort of intelligent discussion or replies.

And i'm the one who gets hit with trolling infractions. Give me a ****ing break.
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*****ATTN EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD*****

Ignore this guy. No matter what you say, he won't listen.
I've just finished reading through mark's old threads about his Trek adventures. This may be a lost cause.

Mark, listen to what everyone has been telling you from day one. You bought a cheap, bottom of the barrel $250 bike and you complain when it breaks? Take responsibility for what you spent your money on and learn from your mistakes. We've all been there.

At the risk of showing off, I am in the process of building a similar type of bike, although it's closer to an English 3 speed. By the time I am done, I will have over $1500 put into it. My rear hub cost more than your whole bike. I won't have your problems because I took the time to research, I spent the money, I learned to do much of the work myself, and I will have something that will live up to my high expectations.

On the flip side, my all original Hercules is over 40 years old. I paid $30 for it at a yard sale. When it was new it was cheap. Given proper care, it could last another 40+ years and still be one of my favorite bikes.

Raliegh and Schwinn put out 100 years of inexpensive bikes that are still road worthy. Trek will do the same.

You live in Chicago. Go visit Boulevard Bikes up in Logan Square and Yojimbo's Garage over by Cabrini Green. Between the two, you can put together something we can talk about. But before you do that, go hang out at the Working Bikes Co-op warehouse just north of their storefront on Western next weekend. Get a decent, used saddle and learn about bike repair.

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Ha, this is hilarious.
I have a cruiser that's made of an old, beat-to-**** mountain frame and a coaster brake. My wheels are cheap (the front one is a junk wheel I got free), my saddle is from a dumpster bike, and there's surface rust on the frame.
And I haven't had a single problem with it yet, because I keep it rideable.
Do what these guys said: Learn about bikes. Learn how to fix them. Learn how to keep an eye out for problems. And learn who/what causes these problems (such as: it's not Trek's fault that you let your bike rust and didn't check the spoke tension of your wheels).
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Old 04-20-08, 10:26 AM   #11
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All they hype about trek on this and many boards and it ain't even covered under warranty.
most people here hate trek. check the roadie forum.
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also: i can't tell if this guy's a troll or an idiot. someone should make a poll about it.
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also: i can't tell if this guy's a troll or an idiot. someone should make a poll about it.
He's a ****ing idiot.

And mods, you can infraction me your bull**** for this post.
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I have noticed that my trek classic cruiser has dropout damage due to axle creep,it uses those bolts and having repaired about 100 flats I have noticed the coaster brake bolt has done real damage to my dropouts. Is it worth getting the frame rebrazed with new dropouts or should I just leave it until whatever happens.

IYou know I like cruiser bikes because of the handlebars and no cables,but this bike really costed me about $400 worth of irritation and aggravation to the point that I am ready to take the loss and buy a walmart type bike.I could imagine how much the repairs would cost me at the bike shop.

Even though it only costed me $200,I regret it and am stuck with it.
ok, i have 4 things here.

1) what are "those bolts?"

2) you don't know how to take care of a bike

3) you're an idiot

4) the word is "cost." as in "this bike cost me two weeks worth of food stamps." not "costed." see #3.
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1) what are "those bolts?"
You know. Those bolts. They hang out in groups and you can't trust 'em any further than you can throw 'em.

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LOL.

Post pics of the damage. Chances are if you are thinking of buying a wal mart bike you won't be willing to pay what it would cost to replace a drop out.

FYI, a 200 dollar trek isn't much different from a 125 dollar walmart bike. How could it be?
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Kemmer just unleashed his thunder hammer of subtlety and nuance. +250 ATK. ftw.


BOOM!

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yeah, but I thought better of it and edited.
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You know. Those bolts. They hang out in groups and you can't trust 'em any further than you can throw 'em.
oooooh! THOSE bolts. god i hate them.
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yeah, but I thought better of it and edited.
HAHA!!

I love it when threads implode!
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this thread has now reached epic status
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what exactly do you mean by damaged? post a pic. please.
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oooooh! THOSE bolts. god i hate them.
Yes them bolts do damage,but on the other hand ever have the quick release skewer break on you?The frames should be redesigned to prevent axle creep.


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(such as: it's not Trek's fault that you let your bike rust and didn't check the spoke tension of your wheels).
There was nothing in the manual about preventative measures to prevent a seat post from rusting to the frame like greasing the seatpost(read this from sheldon browns website)There was nothing about spoke tension in the manual either.Yes I do know about fixing bikes,I had to relace my whole wheel(wheelbuilding) when I had never done that before.There was nothing in the manual about dropout damage from axle creep.


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No quality control,It should have come with one of those either stainless or chrome plated seatposts,you know like many of the bike made by NEXT,that dont rust.


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This is a TREK not a bike from wal-mart OK,TREK

I expect more from this brand name,If this was a roadmaster or NEXT,I would have no right to complain,what should I expect.But this is a TREK which I ASSUMED was better quality than a roadmaster or NEXT.Just read all the hype on this board from this brand name.

Back to my dropouts.
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what exactly do you mean by damaged? post a pic. please.
Indentations from the bolts and axle creep when you tighten the bolts.The bolts actually smash the steel to an indentation.

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FYI, FYI, a 200 dollar trek isn't much different from a 125 dollar walmart bike. How could it be?
I wish i knew that earlier,I would have saved $75.00.With gas prices so high i am on a tight budget,i could not afford a $1000 trek.

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