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    To those rocking the thicker KMC chain:

    I had my KMC 410H (thicker sideplates, this thing is a beast) for half a year and just recently changed it to a normal KMC chain (the gold one, mmmm).

    Now my bike is silent as hell, in opposed to noisy. When I'm riding and look down to assess noise, now 95% of it is tire on road noise, that lovely tire on road noise..ohhhhh. Just saying... if your bike is loud and you're using that chain try changing it to a normal one.

    BTW I am using a Miche crankset with an EAI cog; used to have a Surly cog on back though (and the thick chain was loud with both).
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    I don't get it operator, can you tell that a chain will be noisy by how fat it is?

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    Hey guys hey guys!
    I just got pedals on my bike, now I can go up hills AND stop at intersections!
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    this thread does not need to happen.
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    Road [racing] is one of the only sports where adult men can compete in a non-scholastic setting, so inevitably 8/10 racers are fiercely-competitive nobodies. It's fun as hell, but it's also the foremost refuge of defeated and aging jocks, turned middle-management types.

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    I love that tire to road sound at night. It is such a beautiful symphony! So far I've only found that the KMC Z chain to be the most SILENT of all that I've tried (which has only been the fat one this thread was about and a sach chain)

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    I refuse to replace my chain.

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    keeping your chain clean and well lubed I think is more important than how thick your chain is

    also stretched chains are noisy

    and yea, 'woosh' sounds are nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by mander View Post
    I don't get it operator, can you tell that a chain will be noisy by how fat it is?
    it may sound stupid but yes, I didn't believe it would matter, but apparently it does, so I'm posting it here in case there are other people like me who don't believe their thicker chain is making more noise.
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    hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

    Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.

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    Some of you guys are being serious coonts for no reason i can figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfutz View Post
    hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

    Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.
    noob, go look up KMC 410H. It has thicker sideplates.
    http://velospace.org/node/5540

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    410s are pretty low end kmc's, that might have had something to do with it. It actually makes little obvious/ a priori sense that a chain with thicker side plates would be noisier, that was a rhetirical question up there.

    I really like the 510ZH's---on my setup they are always a bit noisy at first but quieten down quick. Currently I am rocking a 1/8" skinny 410---I didn't know you could get them as H's. Just checking to see how a $6 chain works, and it aint bad. It's pretty quiet anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfutz View Post
    hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

    Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.
    um WRONG! Chains vary in how much noise they make. I have the THICK 1/8 KMC chain he's talking about and it is indeed very noisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    noob, go look up KMC 410H. It has thicker sideplates.
    noob, sideplate width would have absolutely nothing to do with road noise.

    p.s noob, your "thick" chain was old, old chains stretch and always have more road chatter than new chains.

    p.p.s noob, who the **** says noob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyeswho View Post
    um WRONG! Chains vary in how much noise they make. I have the THICK 1/8 KMC chain he's talking about and it is indeed very noisy.
    Explain how plate width would influence road noise.

    He had a ****ty chain, that is the most likely answer for why his drivetrain was making noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfutz View Post
    noob, sideplate width would have absolutely nothing to do with road noise.

    p.s. noob, the kmc 410h is a 1/8th chain

    p.p.s noob, your "thick" chain was old, old chains stretch and always have more road chatter than new chains.

    p.p.p.s noob, who the **** says noob.
    What the **** is wrong with you today dood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mander View Post
    What the **** is wrong with you today dood?
    I edited my post, I am in a bad mood, I retract my trolling.

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    I'd rather have a loud bike whose chain I know won't crap out on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfutz View Post
    Explain how plate width would influence road noise.

    He had a ****ty chain, that is the most likely answer for why his drivetrain was making noise.
    I never said anything about plate width. Your comment, which I responded to, said getting a chain to match his drivetrain thickness will result in a silent run which is totally wrong. Here's your response:
    hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

    Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.


    I've heard the fat wipperman chain has never been quiet and I have the thick KMC chain that matches my 1/8th drivetrain, so please explain how you think every 1/8 chain is going to be silent like a 3/32nd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwiches View Post
    I'd rather have a loud bike whose chain I know won't crap out on me.
    Especially when you consider the fact that 3/32 chains are in much more wide use than 1/8 chain, are designed to handle extreme variation in chainline, lighter and faster on the road and in the stand.

    Then you would be right.

    Let's also ignore the fact that 99% of chain failure is due to incorrect installation or extreme wear, the former being much easier to do for a noob since 1/8 chains hardly come with real masterlinks.
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    A REAL masterlink? I just use what my KMC chain came with.

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    I run a blue KMC 1/8 chain to a dura-ace 1/8 cog. It have never noticed it being noisy. It's pretty damn silent and I have never lubed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by operator View Post
    Especially when you consider the fact that 3/32 chains are in much more wide use than 1/8 chain, are designed to handle extreme variation in chainline, lighter and faster on the road and in the stand.

    Then you would be right.

    Let's also ignore the fact that 99% of chain failure is due to incorrect installation or extreme wear, the former being much easier to do for a noob since 1/8 chains hardly come with real masterlinks.

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