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    Surly hubs

    What are your opinions of the surly hubs

    Im getting a bike next week with them and curious as to how they perform
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    I think the general consensus is that they will perform pretty well, but that they are overpriced for what they are. You could probably get the same level of performance from a formula or miche hub.
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    I had a set and I thought they were fine, But I couldn't ever feel a difference over formulas and they wore out faster than my set of formulas. Plus the bearing size is not as easy to find nor can you replace the bearings with Phil spec so I would not ever get them again over formula's but not a bad hub at all, Held up well. What bike are you getting?

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    I was told they are over priced.

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    Another thing to keep in mind about the Surly hub is that they use an adjustable bearing, which if not adjusted properly will lead to premature bearing failure. Many folks seem to have a problem with this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Surly Blog
    When a "shop mechanic" tells us his Surly New hub bearings were fried after two months of riding, we see a red flag. Bearings simply don't fail after that short of a riding period under normal circumstances, so there must be another problem. We use tough Enduro 7901 angular contact bearings that have a load rating better than our previous generation 1x1 hubs. What you all should know about our hubs is that these are ADJUSTABLE cartridge bearings. This means you or the shop mechanic must adjust these bearings for minimal friction and minimal side play when brand new and periodically throughout their life in order to maximize their lifespan. Even brand new, out-of-the-box Surly hubs should be either adjusted or checked to make sure the outer locknuts are securely tightened against the cones. Failure to do so will likely result in premature bearing failure. Successful completion of this task will result in a very long lasting and smooth operating hubset. You've been warned, now go ride.
    http://www.surlybikes.com/2004_02_01...ogarchive.html

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    Thats good to know thanks
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    I have three sets of Surly hubs. The are decent hubs, but all of the above is true. Get formulas.

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    Adjustable cartridge bearings? Doesn't that defeat some of the arguments around in favor of cartridge bearings? I never knew there was such a thing...although I'm rolling on normal bearings and cones and don't mind adjusting and overhauling when necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2Die View Post
    I had a set and I thought they were fine, But I couldn't ever feel a difference over formulas and they wore out faster than my set of formulas. Plus the bearing size is not as easy to find nor can you replace the bearings with Phil spec so I would not ever get them again over formula's but not a bad hub at all, Held up well. What bike are you getting?
    i'm almost positive you can replace surly bearings with phil spec. this thread proves it.

    although that thread is from 2005... are new surly hubs different?

    edit- ps i'm completely 100% satisfied with my surly hubs so far... 6 months and going strong.

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    yeah i've used surly hubs and they are fine... and the bearings are totally (or at least were?) replaceable with phil, i don't think they've changed their hubs at all in the past few years.
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    I recently built up some Surly hubs for my beater bike. I got them so I could get a double fixed rear. I like them so far. No noticeable difference from my Formulas but not nearly as nice as my Phils. At first I kicked myself for buying them (re: they are overpriced) but after getting them laced up I feel as if they were a decent purchase.
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    I have some, they work fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serac View Post
    Adjustable cartridge bearings? Doesn't that defeat some of the arguments around in favor of cartridge bearings? I never knew there was such a thing...although I'm rolling on normal bearings and cones and don't mind adjusting and overhauling when necessary.
    The main benefits of cartridge bearings are lack of maintenance and durability. The adjustment is generally a "set it and forget it" adjustment, and usually isn't even necessary unless you have replaced the bearings. Formulas and most other cartridge bearing hubs are adjustable also.
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    Commuted on some of the worst streets (potholes, sand, and tons of salt) in rain/snow/or shine for 2 years on mine. Even with the occasional offroading adventure, I have yet to touch the bearings, no play, spin fine. I give them the thumbs up.

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    I've been commuting on mine for nearly two years. No problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thequickfix View Post
    I think the general consensus is that they will perform pretty well, but that they are overpriced for what they are. You could probably get the same level of performance from a formula or miche hub.
    Business Cycles has Miche for $90/pair right now.

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    they work fine, a little over priced.
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    I love mine. 135mm of sexiness. I can't comment on it being overpriced as there isn't much option besides surly for a 135mm hub that isn't named Paul or Phil. I did have to replace the bearings after 9 month of riding, but most likely due to me overtightening the tracknuts.
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    I've been riding on a surly rear hub for 2+ years. It's pretty decent and durable, although one of the sealed bearings that came with the hub was missing a ball and made an awful racket.

    However, if I were to buy a new rear hub right now I'd get the cheapest formula/nashbar/whatever hub around and just replace the bearings with Phil Wood (for only $10 or $20 bucks).

    And if I were to buy a front hub right now it'd be another ultegra road hub - cup-and-cone bearings are still faster, cheaper, and really don't require all that much maintenance. It seems like most people would rather have barely noticeable bling and matching hubs than go really fast, though.

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