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    wheelbuild advice

    im looking to build up my first wheel, itll be a front wheel. im probably going to try and use a deep v or mavic open pro or a comparable 50-60 dollar road rim. my main question is on the issue of hubs. i want something decent, not a completely ****ty wheel. i can get the base suzue hub for 16, a crappy formula hub for around 30, and my lbs that i like can get a colored profile front hub for around 40. ive also seen older campy and similar stuff on ebay for sub 40 bucks. i want my wheel to have sex appeal, and if not sex appeal, then lots of colors. any advice on good hub for a good price would be appreciated. also, one thing i must mention is i do wheelies and tricks and things which may cause the hub a bit more trauma than a usual rider might (but i do not abuse my parts, and i maintain them very well). thanks in advance.

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    First of all, lots of people seem to be under the impression that Formula hubs are crap. They are not. For riding on the street, they are seriously as tough and durable a hub as you need. If you want to do tricks, the Profile hub might be a little better, as it's made by a BMX company that knows how to build **** that doesn't break, but I've never heard of anyone breaking the flanges or axles on Formula hubs any more than other hubs. Formula only comes in black and silver, so I guess if you want colors, Profile would be the better option. I wouldn't bother with campy or other nice brands of hub for doing tricks.


    FWIW, a friend of mine built up a wheelset with Deep Vs and Paul hubs that he decided within a month was a huge waste of money. On the street, you're not going to feel much of a difference between various quality hubs with good bearings (Formula is a quality hub with good bearings), but if you go with expensive ones, you get to feel like a baller every time you look at your wheels. You can decide if that's worth the extra money or not.

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    i see, and i actually like the formula hub used on my hand built rear wheel but i didnt know if itd be more economical (in the long run) to dish out the extra $10 bucks (to a quality LBS and not online) and get a hub which is designed for bmx, so i know it shouldnt break or anything like that. also the on sale suzue ive found online has a real sexy price and i know they make a good product, but i dont know how good a 16 dollar hub could work. im pretty sure its loose bearings and stuff, and i know i could upgrade em for cheap but im looking for a quick buy of hub, rim, spokes, nipples, build.

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    Alex DA28 is a great rim. It builds well and is bullet proof.
    A lot of messengers in Toronto prefer them.

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    what does it mean by "NOS" rim?
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    new old stock (an old, out of production item that has never been used)... but seriously, google.

    A Formula hub will easily outlast the rim you lace to it if you're running a rim brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superluminal View Post
    Alex DA28 is a great rim. It builds well and is bullet proof.
    A lot of messengers in Toronto prefer them.
    I have a DA28 rim and like it a lot. Suzue junior hub on the other, not - good from far, but far from good. Rebuild every four months and the different size cones are a PITA if you need to replace them. I've dragged out the life of mine for quite a while with diligent maintenance, but stepping it up to buy a formula hub would have been a much better idea. I'm pretty happy with my formula hubs. You can get a low flange IRO front and rear set for $30 from IRO's site in the bargain bin right now.

    Most of the differences in price point you're talking about seem pretty minor, so if you want to step into a profile, I'd say go for it. If it were a jump of $50 or more, then that's cause for pause. If you're concerned about failure, I'd pass on old hubs unless they're NOS.
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    Just get the formula hub. Profile made a lot of really poor design decisions (in my opinion) on their hubs which keep me away from them (SAE bolts? WTF were they thinking?).

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    im mostly leaning towards the formula cause though the stock ones on my mtb were **** ill give em a try for a fixie cause my handmade rear deep v on formula hub works soooo well. also, i just saw a miche primo i think for maybe 50-55 on some online stores. i know theyre a racing type hub, but would they last for hard riding (tricks and ****, as well as everyday use in the city)?

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    also, i noticed low flange is cheper by a decent amount, would it make much of difference for street riding, having lower flanges? basically, if got cheap and bought a low flange hub would i regret it a few months, years down the road. i like quality things, and i like em to last. any advice is greatly appreciated. thanks.

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    holy ****, im back again, any advice about brands like SOMA or IRO hubs. i usually have a tough time trusting new companies with low R&D budgets to make a quality thing like a hub, but would something like this be worthwhile? it looks good (sealed cartridge bearings), comes in colors and is a good price http://shop.irocycle.com/shop/produc...3&cat=5&page=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeem View Post
    holy ****, im back again, any advice about brands like SOMA or IRO hubs. i usually have a tough time trusting new companies with low R&D budgets to make a quality thing like a hub, but would something like this be worthwhile? it looks good (sealed cartridge bearings), comes in colors and is a good price http://shop.irocycle.com/shop/produc...3&cat=5&page=1
    IRO hubs are rebadged formulas.
    SOMA hubs are rebadged Dimension hubs, I think, and way overpriced.

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    i thought somas were formulas. the harris cyclery hubs are formulas too, but for ten extra $$. i think i may just silkscreen my name on some formula hubs and charge 70 bucks. phil and paul use their first names, i think my hubs will just be called "adam".

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    Interesting that you are building a front. I have a bunch of front pre-builts that I choose from. I usually end up building rear wheels. If you are building a front, you have a HUGE choice of hubs, since you are not limited to "track" hubs. And spacing is pretty much a non-issue, regardless of vintage.

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    i want to build front because its easier (for my first full wheelbuild) but also i have a nice 1 year old shimano ulterga model front wheel with QR that i got from my dad which i use now. it works great but i fear it wont hold up to the abuse of tricks. also, i want to have it in good shape so i can have an extra road wheel for my road bike because i race and if i ever mess up my wheel now, ill have one extra waiting to be used. and the QR right now makes some noise when i do tricks so i figure ill just go full fledged and build a track front wheel. and im pretty sure itll be orange IRO hub and white deep v and black spokes.

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