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Old 05-24-08, 12:40 PM   #1
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doubles

What is the purpose for wanting double straps? is it really just the obvious or am i missing something here? hmmm...
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Old 05-24-08, 12:42 PM   #2
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They give you a middle ground of foot retention... more than singles but less than clipless. They also are fashionable.
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Old 05-24-08, 01:07 PM   #3
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"Purpose for wanting"

Um, interesting way to phrase it.

peabodypride, "fashionable"? Give me a break; what is fashionable is to claim that something is fashionable without any substantiation. If anything, I find singles look much better. But then again, is looking good really fashionable?

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I had soma single (crappy...) and i upgraded to soma doubles (got em for cheap.. 20bucks). IMO way worth it.. the ride was much better. I can't quite explain it.. you'll just have to try doubles for yourself! But if i have to list some reasons why double is better.. for me are:

-more binded in
-easier (zomg) skidz
-overall better/more comfortable ride
-foot more snug/stable...
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circular logic aside, they give you more than one point of tension on the pedal. this is like asking, "what's the advantage of securing a surfboard to your roof with two straps instead of just one?"
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"Purpose for wanting"

Um, interesting way to phrase it.

peabodypride, "fashionable"? Give me a break; what is fashionable is to claim that something is fashionable without any substantiation. If anything, I find singles look much better. But then again, is looking good really fashionable?

Don't try to sound fancy with flawed logic and semicolons. Bottom line is you see $100+ toshi doubles on (outside of actual track racers' bikes) blinged out bikes with phil hubs and thomson seatposts, it's an undeniable facet of tarckland.
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Don't try to sound fancy with flawed logic and semicolons. Bottom line is you see $100+ toshi doubles on (outside of actual track racers' bikes) blinged out bikes with phil hubs and thomson seatposts, it's an undeniable facet of tarckland.
Any recommendations for someone who just wants a toe strap that isn't going to snap on him at the worst possible time? Honestly, the only reason I'm even considering toshis is because I want something secure, safe and durable. If that's a $100 toshi or a pair of $5 woven nylon straps with a home-made doubler, then so be it.
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I'm not trying to sound like anything. Semi-colons have their place, but I revoke mine if it was somehow threatening to you. Don't be so presumptuous. And where's my flawed logic?

I guess doubles can be tarcky, but even if they are in some instances they're also doubly functional.
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your flawed logic was that you criticized peabody for not giving "substantiation", while at the same time claiming that doubles are not fashionable because you think singles look better.

peabody is right -- doubles are functional and fashionable. bexley has added nothing to this conversation.
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Were you the guy who asked what a "casual chain" is in some past thread?

(Edited for succinctness and not continuing with Internet Tough Guyz MMMX.)

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bexley, if ur asking me then no, i was not the guy who asked what a "casual chain" was
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fashion? i live in middle of nowhere china, i don't think the people around me gives me any props for riding a track bike. and i sure as hell don't like spending 100 bucks for nothing. i only ride with doubles cuz they lock your foot in. i think anyone that rides brake less will tell you that the security in that is worth the extra cash money.
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I think to probe the OPs question deeper: while it's not uncommon to see double toe straps on the pedals of, say, a match sprinter's bike being raced on a velodrome, why do people use them on the road, especially if they clearly are not racing or training, wearing Puma Sambas, and carving in and out of midtown traffic. Yes, it seems the question is geared (no pun intended) not towards serious racers, but rather, those who ride fixies for purposes such as messengering.
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yeah, its not just about fashion. i'm fairly sure i'm the only person in nampa, idaho riding fixed, so i sure as hell didn't get em for cool points. but i love em to death.
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are toshis worth their price as compared to the cheaper dimensions?
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Don't try to sound fancy with flawed logic and semicolons. Bottom line is you see $100+ toshi doubles on (outside of actual track racers' bikes) blinged out bikes with phil hubs and thomson seatposts, it's an undeniable facet of tarckland.
RANT/ I hate you and I hope someone steals your stupid white bike. Your really just trying to be cool with your FTP, and all white parts. You also make yourself sound like an ass in every post you make, speaking of fashion and the likes. People are here to ride bikes.. go to the fashion/hipster forums to brag about your stupid endevours. Stop trying to be fashionable, stop trying to be a messenger, you sound like an idiot. /RANT

For some relevence in this thread.. dimensions doubles will stretch much like the older somas, but I feel that they have held up better than my newer laminated somas which broke and delaminated rather quickly. If you really need that extra retension, toshis are the best way to go. If your on a budget the older style somas work ok.

The reasons I started riding doubles was because my singles kept slipping and coming loose while riding brake less. So I moved up to the soma doubles, broke those then got my toshis. The toshis are stiffer, stronger, and more durable than any other straps that Ive tried. If I had to do it all over again I would go straight for toshis.
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I'm not trying to sound like anything. Semi-colons have their place,
"...do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites, standing for absolutely nothing. All they do is show you’ve been to college."
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I think to probe the OPs question deeper: while it's not uncommon to see double toe straps on the pedals of, say, a match sprinter's bike being raced on a velodrome, why do people use them on the road, especially if they clearly are not racing or training, wearing Puma Sambas, and carving in and out of midtown traffic. Yes, it seems the question is geared (no pun intended) not towards serious racers, but rather, those who ride fixies for purposes such as messengering.
addidas makes sambas.
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"...do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites, standing for absolutely nothing. All they do is show you’ve been to college."
i learned to use semicolons in middle school
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i learned to use semicolons in middle school
Obviously they left a few other details out.
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i learned to use semicolons in middle school
most people learn semicolons in gradeschool, but most people don't actually think they should use them until they get to high school or college and start using them as an excuse to use run on sentences.
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addidas makes sambas.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
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addidas makes sambas.
actually, adidas makes sambas. all day dumbasses inside domes achieve success.
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actually, adidas makes sambas. all day dumbasses inside domes achieve success.
Lol... wtf?
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