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Old 06-02-08, 11:43 AM   #1
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loctite red vs. blue

what do people use to hold their lockring in place? red (permanent) or blue (can remove with a wrench) loctite (or similar brand)?
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loctite? I use grease + lockring.
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IIRC loctite is only recommended if you're going to run suicide, which is not recommended. If you have a lockring just grease it up.
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So do I, but I'm getting tired of my lockring getting loose over time and then my cog slipping. And people have told me to use loctite to fix this.

Unless anyone else has a suggestion for keeping my lockring tight?
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blue, never red on anything on a bike.
and even then, with most things grease works better. just grease the hell out of your cog and lockring and torque the hell out of them.
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So do I, but I'm getting tired of my lockring getting loose over time and then my cog slipping. And people have told me to use loctite to fix this.

Unless anyone else has a suggestion for keeping my lockring tight?
Are you running a fixed hub with a reverse threaded lockring or a suicide hub with a bb lockring??
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Old 06-02-08, 12:14 PM   #7
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I'm running whatever a stock '08 rush hour has which the website says is: Alloy Sealed 32h, Track. Its a flip-flop so I assume its reverse threaded.
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I used blue on my setup.
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the freewheel side on the rush hour is not reverse threaded, the track side is. you'll be fine without locktite if you just torque your stuff properly.
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Blue should be fine, it will be fun changing cogs.
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the freewheel side on the rush hour is not reverse threaded, the track side is. you'll be fine without locktite if you just torque your stuff properly.
Okay, so heres the story, I rode for a while, then the cog started to slip. I took my wheel to the LBS and they tightened the lockring for me (I could take it off by hand). YAY, that fixed the problem for about a week, then my cog was slipping and I could remove my lockring by hand again. So... I got a lockring tool that should arrive today.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to try grease (I don't think the LBS added any) I'm just getting frustrated with it... Wouldn't grease make it easier to loosen? or is it just getting the air out of the threads that matters?

Sorry for questioning your advice, just tired of dealing with this (had to switch back to freewheel, I didn't realize how much I would miss fixed)
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Did they tighten the cog before tightening the lockring? I certainly hope so..
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does your LBS know anything about track cogs and lockrings? sounds like they didn't use the right tool. you need to get a lockring tool that lets you put enough force on it that it won't just slip off.. this could be a problem with the ring, but i'm pretty sure it's just that it's not torqued on enough... especially if it was put on by the same LBS both times.

it's good to question advice... especially when it's over the internet. it's just that locktite is the cart before the horse... get it torqued properly first, and if it still won't stick then locktite. which is what you're doing, so it's all good
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Yeah, it was different LBS's both times. But I live in the burbs so the lbs that tightened it (in their back room where I couldn't see) wasn't really sure at first what I was talking about. I have this odd notion that city bike shops have more knowledge about fixie's (is it just me).

Since I ordered the correct tool I think I'll give it another go at tightening it myself and see how that goes first and then figure it out if it doesn't work.

Thanks for all the replys and advice, its appreciated!
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Yeah, it was different LBS's both times. But I live in the burbs so the lbs that tightened it (in their back room where I couldn't see) wasn't really sure at first what I was talking about. I have this odd notion that city bike shops have more knowledge about fixie's (is it just me).

Since I ordered the correct tool I think I'll give it another go at tightening it myself and see how that goes first and then figure it out if it doesn't work.

Thanks for all the replys and advice, its appreciated!
Make sure to tighten down the cog first, then the lockring.

A tip I've heard before as well is to ride up the biggest hill you can, then ride home WITHOUT USING BACKWARDS PRESSURE. Use your hand brake. The pressure applied to the cog from going uphill should tighten it nicely, so you can get that lockring up nice and snug.
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i'm always surprised at what LBS know fixed gear stuff and which know less than i do.

definitely get a chainwhip or at least rotafix the cog on real tight before you tighten the reverse threaded lockring, that part is crucial.
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I use anti-seize and then just brute friction.

I've never used a chainwhip. Rotafix all the way. The large wheel gives you great leverage and makes it easier to get the cog on the nice and toight.
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