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Old 07-21-08, 06:47 PM   #1
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Chained saddles?

What's the deal with the chain hooked up between saddle and frame I see everywhere on the web? You don't see this in Tokyo... and people here normally follow every fad.

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Old 07-21-08, 06:50 PM   #2
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people must not steal things in tokyo.
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Old 07-21-08, 06:58 PM   #3
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Old 07-21-08, 07:19 PM   #4
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It is a very janky hobo way of attempting to secure your seatpost and saddle.
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I hear people lock bikes up with dental floss in Tokyo.
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prevents theft and thenyou also have spare chain.
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Old 07-21-08, 07:40 PM   #7
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I hear people lock bikes up with dental floss in Tokyo.
quoted for truth, "dentral frossu"
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Haha, I think I've been over here for too long. Yes, things don't get stolen as much, but might just be a false sense of security... I better get myself a real lock!

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Haha, I think I've been over here for too long. Yes, things don't get stolen as much, but might just be a false sense of security... I better get myself a real lock!
You don't always have to outsmart the bike thief, just the cyclist who locked up next to you.
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It is a very janky hobo way of attempting to secure your seatpost and saddle.
No matter what people think it works, once when I was chaining my bike to a rack the guy next to me made a remark (similiar to yours) about how stupid it looked, I laughed and went about my business, when I got back I was lucky enough to see his face when HE noticed that he (and a few other) had their saddles stolen! mine was still there! So yeah, it may be a "very janky hobo way of attempting to secure your seatpost and saddle" but it worked for me
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No matter what people think it works, once when I was chaining my bike to a rack the guy next to me made a remark (similiar to yours) about how stupid it looked, I laughed and went about my business, when I got back I was lucky enough to see his face when HE noticed that he (and a few other) had their saddles stolen! mine was still there! So yeah, it may be a "very janky hobo way of attempting to secure your seatpost and saddle" but it worked for me
There are far superior way of securing you saddle and seatpost, without having and old chain in an old intertube hanging around your seat.
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Since I just put a rather attention grabbing (plaid) saddle on my SS build, what is the proffered method of saddle security?
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Adjust properly, and fill the allen bolt heads. If you are in high crime area, fill with epoxy, if in a low crime area filling with PL adhesive will suffice, all without having an old chain hanging from your bike.
Or replace you allen bolts with tamper proof torx bolts if you are really picky.
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Keep in mind, lots of riders (me for one) carry a chain tool in their saddle bag. Your chain hanging from your saddle can be gone in 10 seconds.
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Adjust properly, and fill the allen bolt heads. If you are in high crime area, fill with epoxy, if in a low crime area filling with PL adhesive will suffice, all without having an old chain hanging from your bike.
Now that's some sound advice.
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with the whole filling the allen heads, how do you get it out if you ever need to adjust or replace?
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with the whole filling the allen heads, how do you get it out if you ever need to adjust or replace?
http://www.crosslinktech.com/FAQ/Rem...20products.htm
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Old 07-21-08, 11:33 PM   #18
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so you just heat it up?
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thieves don't have lighters?
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i hear lions provide good seat protection.
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Old 07-22-08, 06:20 AM   #21
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thieves don't have lighters?
I've found it takes significantly more than a lighter.
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I've found it takes significantly more than a lighter.
yes, to remove the expoxy. but to remove the saddle the theif can cut the seatpost collar bolt with a hacksaw.

a cable through the rails is sufficient. if the thief wants it enough to cut a cable, he or she is gonna get it. plus then you can adjust your **** if you want.

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Old 07-22-08, 07:34 AM   #23
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Keep in mind, lots of riders (me for one) carry a chain tool in their saddle bag. Your chain hanging from your saddle can be gone in 10 seconds.
yes perhaps you could when you cut through the two layers of tube, break the chain, and release bolts... but thankfully the majority of riders aren't thieves, and the majority of thieves don't carry chain breakers.

Saying that, there is a brooks and bike theft epidemic in Toronto. I have heard of people getting their chained saddle stolen, but that is when it is left out overnight. I wish I had written my name on the underside of my brooks I might be able to find it now.... http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/464768
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Well, I guess I should be thankful that my frame and seat post are both old enough to be totally allen head free. The thief in my case would need either an adjustable wrench or a socket set. Certainly either tool is something most people will have, but not something I would bank on them carrying around at all time and my bike should only be locked in public for very short periods of time.
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honestly i don't know why ripping off parts of otherwise securely-locked bikes isn't a bigger problem in the states.
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