School me on Pake frames, info ?
#1
WHATCHUMEAN?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
School me on Pake frames, info ?
Wsup,
What's the deal with Pake frames ? I'm new to the whole fixed gear scene and
I was just wondering if a Pake frame would be good for a beginner like me ?
Pro's / Con's ?
Thanks.
Here's some pics:
What's the deal with Pake frames ? I'm new to the whole fixed gear scene and
I was just wondering if a Pake frame would be good for a beginner like me ?
Pro's / Con's ?
Thanks.
Here's some pics:
#2
huaraches es amor
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Long Beach, CA EEUU
Posts: 466
Bikes: n+1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
personally, I don't think they are worth the price because the tubes are just straight up 4130. For the price an IRO Mark V or even IRO Angus is a way better deal.
weight of frame:
Pake: something around 5 lbs
Mark V: 4.3 lbs
That's almost a pound and the Mark V is cheaper or around the same price depending where you buy the Pake.
weight of frame:
Pake: something around 5 lbs
Mark V: 4.3 lbs
That's almost a pound and the Mark V is cheaper or around the same price depending where you buy the Pake.
#3
70mm4$!n!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: DC
Posts: 1,757
Bikes: Sworks E5, ritte Bosberg
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
pros - cheap, dexterous as ****, cheap, decals on top of clear coat
cons -heavy
pro or con - road-ish geometry, plain
cons -heavy
pro or con - road-ish geometry, plain
#5
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
the pake is good one of my friends has one and it is solid granted the guy is only a buck 50 ish
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,025
Bikes: Urbanite Road Bike, Mielle Fixed Gear Conversion, Vintage Lejeune Track Bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by bikeage
personally, I don't think they are worth the price because the tubes are just straight up 4130. For the price an IRO Mark V or even IRO Angus is a way better deal.
weight of frame:
Pake: something around 5 lbs
Mark V: 4.3 lbs
That's almost a pound and the Mark V is cheaper or around the same price depending where you buy the Pake.
weight of frame:
Pake: something around 5 lbs
Mark V: 4.3 lbs
That's almost a pound and the Mark V is cheaper or around the same price depending where you buy the Pake.
#8
WHATCHUMEAN?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Danhalen
I'm pretty sure the Mark V is 4130 as well. The Angus is upgraded to 631. The Pake sizing makes much more sense than the IRO sizing.
#9
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
4130 is standard chromoly steel the iro mark v and the pake are both made out of no descript tube sets(the tubing used to make the frame) other slightly more expensive frames have name brand tubes that are butted ( the thickness of metal varies over distance making it lighter usually thicker at the ends and skinnier in the middle) i.e. tange prestige columbus reynolds 52o, 631, 831
for about the same price as the pake you can get a cayne uno or a khs flite 100 from spicer and for a little more you could get one of his standard al frames which are very nice if you are feeling the weight thing
check out spicercycles.com
for about the same price as the pake you can get a cayne uno or a khs flite 100 from spicer and for a little more you could get one of his standard al frames which are very nice if you are feeling the weight thing
check out spicercycles.com
#10
Guest
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
PAKE are from a guy who works or worked at SOMA . It is his project.
This is what I remember. First seen them at TrackStar in NYC.
S/F<
CEYA!
This is what I remember. First seen them at TrackStar in NYC.
S/F<
CEYA!
#11
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
pake = gas pipe rush
#14
WHATCHUMEAN?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Thanks for all the advice/info. I'm thinking of just buying a IRO Mark V at this point.
Does anyone have like a beginner tutorial for fixies ? What parts do I need for a complete bike ?
Does anyone have like a beginner tutorial for fixies ? What parts do I need for a complete bike ?
#15
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
puma has a book put out that was written by the squid called fixed gear 101 get it if you plan on riding
frame
wheels
headset
bars
stem
saddle
seatpost
pedals
cranks
bottom bracket
chainring
chain
cog
lockring
a front brake
frame
wheels
headset
bars
stem
saddle
seatpost
pedals
cranks
bottom bracket
chainring
chain
cog
lockring
a front brake
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 389
Bikes: Pake fixie. Klein Reve (for sale, https://www.theveer.net/gordons_klein)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
My main bike is a Pake. It serves well for commuting, errands, and exercise rides up to 30 miles - good, basic bike. If you plan to compete or train seriously, you probably want something fancier. I figure bike + me + water + bag + lunch + change or clothes + tools + spare parts weigh in around 220 pounds. Double butting would reduce that by a percent. Not an issue in my book.
#18
Banned.
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Originally Posted by RB925
Thanks for all the advice/info. I'm thinking of just buying a IRO Mark V at this point.
Does anyone have like a beginner tutorial for fixies ? What parts do I need for a complete bike ?
Does anyone have like a beginner tutorial for fixies ? What parts do I need for a complete bike ?
Functionally speaking, pake=iro. They frames are both about the same- same quality, construction, and tubing, the only real difference is the geometry. An IRO is probably cheaper than the pake.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 389
Bikes: Pake fixie. Klein Reve (for sale, https://www.theveer.net/gordons_klein)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Oh, one other thing.
Pake seat post is 27.0 mm or 26.8. mm. I'm not sure about the latter, but 27.0 mm is weird. Most bikes take 27.2 mm. If you want cheapest possible bike, shop for a seat post at the same time you shop for frame.
Pake seat post is 27.0 mm or 26.8. mm. I'm not sure about the latter, but 27.0 mm is weird. Most bikes take 27.2 mm. If you want cheapest possible bike, shop for a seat post at the same time you shop for frame.
#20
Paste Taster
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 4,392
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
just get the iro complete they have a great customer service rap and a great wearantee
#21
Ride for Life
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
other than the weight, i love my Pake. get what you want. IRO is a good way to go if you want to buy your bike complete. Pake is just as good if you want to build it up yourself (as i did).
oh, and you can get cheap (not pretty, but ~$15) seatposts to fit the Pake, or $70 thompson posts if you want...
oh, and you can get cheap (not pretty, but ~$15) seatposts to fit the Pake, or $70 thompson posts if you want...
#24
Ride for Life
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Originally Posted by riotboy
does the pake have cable things?
#25
Playing with the traffic
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sydo, 'Straya
Posts: 428
Bikes: 2009 Colnago Primavera, Campy Chorus 11 speed, 1986 Colnago Master, C-Record, 2008 Surly LHT, 1930's Malvern Star 3-speed.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I ride a Pake. I love it. It's heavy, but so what. Weight (within reason) is only really an issue when you're climbing alot. In any case it's alot lighter than my 1x1 with a 25lb baby in the child seat.
Click on my sig and see the Pake-ness
Click on my sig and see the Pake-ness