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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 07-28-08, 10:39 PM   #1
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i fell off because my lbs my cog loose

argh.

I just purchased a langster today from the local lbs and they took it in back i assumed to check to make sure everything was tight. and put it on the fixed side for me.

i get home I recheck the allen keys. and i realize that seatpost doesnt have assembly lube on it. I figure I will get some tomorrow and recheck everything that gets it.

either way I am excited about having bike so i take it for a ride. I get it somewhat adjusted. the second turn from my house is a downhill I back pedal to stop with one foot clipped in to track stand at the bottom, and my cog and chain came off. and I suddenly have no back pressure so I slip off.

I get up rotafix the cog but I cant do much about the lock ring and I put it on the freewheel side and go home

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Old 07-28-08, 10:40 PM   #2
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Old 07-28-08, 10:49 PM   #3
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Did it have grease on the threads?
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nope, or on the seatpost
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Old 07-28-08, 10:54 PM   #5
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They fail then.
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sorry man. you need to storm into your lbs tomorrow and give them some serious **** about that negligent build.
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Old 07-29-08, 07:44 AM   #7
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bring it back have them check everything over...
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Did you pay with money that you got from the automatic ATM after you entered your personal PIN?
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My LBS once forgot to tighten my front wheel. It started rattling down the block and pretty much fell out when I was stopped. I ended up walking my bike home.

In matter of fact, the mechanics at my LBS love to be rough with my bike. They've stripped chainring bolts, stripped my lockring, scratched in my rims from sloppy flat repairs, installed pinched tire tubes, and paintchips ALL OVER MY FRAME, etc. I finally moved on from them. They seem to care more about their rental business than their returning customers. Sigh.
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Old 07-29-08, 08:10 AM   #10
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Did you pay with money that you got from the automatic ATM after you entered your personal PIN?
isn't the term 'automatic ATM' redundant?
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Old 07-29-08, 08:17 AM   #11
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isn't the term 'automatic ATM' redundant?
You're a POS of ****.
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My LBS once forgot to tighten my front wheel. It started rattling down the block and pretty much fell out when I was stopped. I ended up walking my bike home.

In matter of fact, the mechanics at my LBS love to be rough with my bike. They've stripped chainring bolts, stripped my lockring, scratched in my rims from sloppy flat repairs, installed pinched tire tubes, and paintchips ALL OVER MY FRAME, etc. I finally moved on from them. They seem to care more about their rental business than their returning customers. Sigh.
Sounds like time to learn some of your own repairs. It's actually alot of fun and pretty convenient to at least know how to repair a flat. It'll save you money too and you don't have to go without your bike while you wait for the mechanics to get the work done.
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isn't the term 'automatic ATM' redundant?
yeah, so is personal pin. did you miss the local lbs part of OP?
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There are good shops and bad shops and as I work in one of the good ones...we hear a lot of horror stories.

Yesterday a fellow came in with a newly purchased back wheel, installed the tire and upon inflating it there was nothing but pings and cracks to be heard as the wheel de-tensioned itself.

The list of people I would trust to work on my bike is a short one.
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Old 07-29-08, 11:08 AM   #15
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Did you pay with money that you got from the automatic ATM after you entered your personal PIN?

Very jackass but very funny. Nice.
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Old 07-29-08, 11:41 AM   #16
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Work on your own stuff. It's an investment of about $50 in tools and you know what the hell is going on with your whip at all times.

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LBS = Local Bull ****...please dont go there again. Anyways for real I think you should take the bike back, throw the cog at the mechanic like a ninja.

At least you are ok now, very lucky.... Ride Safe.
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Old 07-29-08, 12:24 PM   #18
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Congrats on the new bike! Does this mean you're retiring the conversion?
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Old 07-29-08, 12:34 PM   #19
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I realized I should not post to the forums on vicoden

anyway. I sold the conversion a few days ago was really tired of dealing with the 650's and it was geared out, had the smallest cog they makein the back. and I couldnt fit a bigger chainring up front

I was going to build up something a bit nicer.
but i crashed this weekend. dropped 1k in the ER had to get stitches
lost my glasses in the river, have to drop $500 there soon
and have to fix my road bike from the crash. it needs wheels, pedals, probably bars. and lots of small stuff you know you crashed when you bend a water bottle cage.

it hasnt been my week
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I gave up on LBSs a long time ago

I agree with those saying DIY. Me last three LBS attempts were:

Have Local REI ship my bike to REI in Portland at start of a tour (to avoid hassles at airport). Should have been less that the $75 airline fee, except the Portland REI took it upon themselves to do a "tune up" on my bike that I had already gone through fully. "no bike leaves here without a tune up - that will be $50 please".

Have REI near my father's house in CA ship my bike back home at the end of the tour (was ready to just get boxes and use the airline as they wanted almost $100! but Dad says no - I dont want any hassle at the airport please). The bike shows at my house - no packing, just tossed into the box, and the cassette against the frame, which is now all scratched up. IDIOTS!

Last straw. Get a new frame and build kit, do it all myself, except I am not comfortable doing the headset since I dont have a press, and am nervous about cutting the steer tube. I come back to get it, and see that they didn't cut the tube, they just put 2 inches of spacers on it OK, they will fix it. They quickly rip it out, sort of measure, grab a hack saw and wail away. Fortunately their eyeballing was OK, but not their tightening of the lock ring - Had to do that myself since it slipped on the first ride. .... and this is the local family owned biz that has a racing team!

That was 5 years ago, and the only time i go in now is if I need a part and can't wait for mail order.
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Just curious... Since the lockring is reverse-threaded compared to the fixed-gear cog, if the cog was lose, it would just tighten up against the lockring, preventing a disastrous slip. I can't imagine how the lbs could make this mistake. But... $h!t h@pp3n$.
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Just curious... Since the lockring is reverse-threaded compared to the fixed-gear cog, if the cog was lose, it would just tighten up against the lockring, preventing a disastrous slip. I can't imagine how the lbs could make this mistake. But... $h!t h@pp3n$.
depends on the hub and lockring they used. some lockring + cog combos wont leave enough thread for the lockring to come down securely on the cog. example: miche carrier + miche lockring on formula hub.
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Last straw. Get a new frame and build kit, do it all myself, except I am not comfortable doing the headset since I dont have a press, and am nervous about cutting the steer tube.

That was 5 years ago, and the only time i go in now is if I need a part and can't wait for mail order.

Here man, make your own "press".

http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/20...placement.html
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I'm not sure it's worth the trouble, especially since it was 5 years ago. but I appreciate the link.

The main point is that while there are I am sure some very good mechanics out there, my experience shows there are bad ones too.

Thus it is a good idea to know how to do things ourselves.

Remember the old adage:

If you want something done right, do it yourself.

I am an old(er) man (52) and the older I get the truer that is
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The "A" in ATM stands for automated which is not the same thing as automatic.
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