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    i'm a moron

    ok, when building a fixed from an old frame up, assuming i get the proper parts, what tools am i going to need? i'm thinking i'll need:
    -allens
    - one of these BB/lockring tools, the crescent moon looking things. but what about sizing? is it critical?
    -cone wrenches for hubs
    -one of these chainwhips for putting cogs on
    -something for pedals? if so, what?
    -the headset-jammer thingie. i've figgered out my headset woes are related to the 27.0mm sizing of my old jap headtube, so that's not a problem, unless there's also a 27.0-specific tool. anyone know for sure?
    -a wrench for the bolts that put my chainring on my cranks.

    what else? i'm thinking of having a shop build my wheels, as i'm sure i'd screw that up. so i wont need a truing stand or spokewrenches. but otherwise, i want to build as much of this bike myself as possible, and i wanna make sure i'm getting the right tools before i order them. go figure!

    tia,
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    Most of what you want to do is covered in the maintenence forum. Have you looked around there? That will take care of all but hte fixey specific stuff.

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    [QUOTE=surreal]ok, when building a fixed from an old frame up, assuming i get the proper parts, what tools am i going to need? i'm thinking i'll need:

    Get an assortment of allens that are individual longer sized and with ball ends on the long end from 2mm-9mm. They allow you to screw the allen in from an angle if necessary.
    If you are using a sealed bearing BB then get the appropriate instalation tool to use with it. If you are going loose ball and cup and cone then you will need a hook wrench (the crescent moon shaped one) and whatever cup adjusting wrench that mates to the cup you are installing. I would go with the Sealed bearing unit as it is less fidddly.
    Depending on the hubs you will need a set of thin cone wrenches either 13-14-or 14-15 or whatever the particular hub uses. Each hub has specific sizes. There doesn't seem to be a standard. I find an extra wrench to hold the off side is helpful when getting the last bit of cone adjustment dialed in. You could use a crescent wrench for this.
    You will need a chainwhip for the cog and either the bb crescent hook ring wrench for the lock ring or a dedicated lock ring wrench. The latter is preferable because it has a more longer and comfortable handle and better leverage.
    Most pedals use 15mm and one of the pedal specific wrenches is nice and thin and of a long enough handle to provide you with some leverage. You may already have a 15mm wrench that will work if it will fit between the crankarm and the pedal body without scratching the pedal arm, some pedals are tighter than others.
    2 Headset wrenches that will mate to the flats of the headset, probably 32mm
    but maybe 36mm. Check when you are buying the headset. If it is an Aheadset type of headset for threadless forks I don't know what they take as I don't use them.
    One of the allen wrenches from the set you will buy will install the allen bolts for the chainwheel but there is a nice little wrench that fits the bolt on the back side of the chainwheel and keeps it from slipping when you are tightening it down. Not absolutely necessary but convenient. You can use a screw driver that you modify to accomplish the same thing.
    There are probably a number of other things that you could use and would make the job easier but these will get you up and running. Hope this helps.

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    [QUOTE=fixedgearhead][QUOTE=surreal]ok, when building a fixed from an old frame up, assuming i get the proper parts, what tools am i going to need? i'm thinking i'll need:



    One other thing I thought of, You will need to either have the headset installed by a shop or fashion yourself an installation tool consisting of a long threaded rod and large washers and the appropriate threaded nuts to fit on the rod. The rod must be able to pass thru the length of the head tube and headset and be tightened down thereby forcing the headset into place. Make sure to lube the headset outsides and the inside of the head tube where tyhe tow meet. There is an expensive tool available from Park but if you are only doing one, it doesn't make sense to by it for one time use. about $100.00

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    thanks, FGH, for all of the advice. i am printing your post for future reference. i think you're right about the headset tool being too expensive, so i'll have to see andy at neighborhood bikeworks for help with that. the lbs wants $30 for the crappy tange 27.0 headset, which is prolly worth only $10. so i'll MO it and head to the bikeowrks, i guess.

    165: don't worry, i'll have plenty of homebrew available for the duration of the project. =P

    -rob

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    Your not a moron. There are no dumb questions. Have fun and remember to not stop pedaling when you come up to the first stop sign you encounter. That has the tendancy to launch you over the handlebars. Remember, "You
    Can't Coast".

    fixedgearhead
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    I found a cheap headset press here that did the trick for me, it was 30, so quite a bit cheaper than the park. Worked fine, the link is here, but it's a uk site, and the price has gone up.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300003485

    To get the crown race onto the fork, I refused to pay another 30 for the other tool:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300003499

    Instead I took a leg off my workstand which just happened to be slightly larger than the fork in it's internal diameter, and smacked the sob with a hammer. It wasn't the best way to do it, and generally I'd advise if I was to do it again that I'd get my LBS and pay the $20. On the other hand I now have the tools to do it again.

    Good luck with your project, there' nothing quite like building a bike up from scratch

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixedgearhead
    Your not a moron. There are no dumb questions. Have fun and remember to not stop pedaling when you come up to the first stop sign you encounter. That has the tendancy to launch you over the handlebars. Remember, "You
    Can't Coast".

    fixedgearhead
    oh, i've been riding my fuji for over a year now. this'll just be the first bike i'll build from the frame up. ive had the frame forever, but time/$$$ have kept me from doing anything with it.

    fwiw, i already have some tools, and some access to some shops and their benches. i just dont wanna be a total prick about exploiting those resources, ya know?

    thanks again!

    -rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by streners
    I found a cheap headset press here that did the trick for me, it was 30, so quite a bit cheaper than the park. Worked fine, the link is here, but it's a uk site, and the price has gone up.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300003485

    To get the crown race onto the fork, I refused to pay another 30 for the other tool:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300003499

    Instead I took a leg off my workstand which just happened to be slightly larger than the fork in it's internal diameter, and smacked the sob with a hammer. It wasn't the best way to do it, and generally I'd advise if I was to do it again that I'd get my LBS and pay the $20. On the other hand I now have the tools to do it again.

    Good luck with your project, there' nothing quite like building a bike up from scratch
    thanks, streners. i think i'll prolly end up taking advantage of a shopbuddy for the headset, but failing that, i'll see about the headset press you mentioned. thanks!

    -rob

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