Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-07-08, 08:06 PM   #1
stuckinatx
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 121
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
How much do Keirin frames cost in Japan?

Just wondering if anyone knows how Keirin frames like Panasonics and Bridgestone/Anchors sell for in Japan. Used, or new, whatever is available. I'm about to be in a situation where I might be able to fly there for free.
stuckinatx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-08, 08:17 PM   #2
do while x
1+1=10
 
do while x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: dallas, tx
Bikes:
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
40,000 +
do while x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-08, 08:19 PM   #3
stuckinatx
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 121
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
40,000 Yen +? Is that new?
stuckinatx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-08, 08:51 PM   #4
do while x
1+1=10
 
do while x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: dallas, tx
Bikes:
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yeah, thats yen. And that was the price of a used frame several years ago.

Not sure how much they are now.
do while x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 12:44 AM   #5
Exempt
Bareknuckle Boxer
 
Exempt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
kalavinkas new are about $1400
gan well pro a bit more
panasonics are about 1k
Exempt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 01:11 AM   #6
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by do while x View Post
Yeah, thats yen. And that was the price of a used frame several years ago.

Not sure how much they are now.
You'd be hard pressed to find anything in a shop for that price now and probably not on Yahoo either. Not that he could buy from there very easily anyway if he's just visiting
In MOST tokyo shops you can expect to pay around 65,000 and up for anything decent. Mostly up.
I think person to person deals are your best bet if you can meet someone selling something.
Otherwise, bring something great to trade.

From what Ive seen in the past week, Punch Cycles is still having the best shop prices and they aint cheap by any means.

Last edited by deathhare; 08-08-08 at 01:51 AM.
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 01:44 AM   #7
cizzlak
Senior Member
 
cizzlak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SE Wisconsin
Bikes: 1994 Trek 1200, 1984 Raleigh Prestige, 1980 Motobecane Grand Jubile, custom 531 track, and a bunch of tinker bikes of all type
Posts: 280
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
nagasawa++
cizzlak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 10:24 AM   #8
nateintokyo
Senior Member
 
nateintokyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santa Barbara
Bikes: SE Quadrangle, '82 Venus NJS, '03 Bianchi Pista, '86 P'sonic Mt Cat, Fat City Yo Eddy '91 + '93, B'cuda A2E, '86 Trek Elance 400, '88 Centurion D.Scott Expert, '88 Fisher Mt Tam (and no longer with me: SE OM Flyer, Umezawa/B-stone/Samson NJS)
Posts: 1,508
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Blue Lug will have frames that are in nice shape in the 50,000~65,000 range. usually in smaller sizes. you can roll into a shop and find something pretty easily if you can spend about 70,000. they'll be in great condition too. but I agree with dh that there is definitely an 'up' as well. luck and friends can get you better deals. and yahoo auctions can STILL be good, but not like it used to (I took to trolling the threads there a bit again).

Mixi has been cheap lately, but there are a lot of hurdles for non-Japanese speakers and non-locals.

new Panasonics run 60,000~80,000 or so. new frames by the other keirin builders usually start at least at 120,000 and can get quite a bit higher with options.
nateintokyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 02:06 PM   #9
jussik
馬鹿野郎!
 
jussik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: HELLsinki, Finland
Bikes:
Posts: 545
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
are the Panasonics those POS ones? I mean, can you walk into a store and get a new Panasonic frame for that price or do you need to order it? IMO that's really not a bad price.
jussik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 05:58 PM   #10
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You cant walk into a shop and get a new Panasonic track frame, unfortunately. Some shops that order them will have display models but usually just one and its not there to be bought. You can ask them order you one, and most shops will charge you around 80,000-85,000. The problem is that, at the moment, the wait time for the frame will be about 6 weeks.
You might could get the shop to post it internationally for you but it would really depend on the shop i guess.
Shipping to the USA and Europe generally runs just over 10,000 now.
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 07:26 PM   #11
pax139
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cambridge, MA
Bikes:
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
So how much are you looking to spend here? And also can you bring it on the airplane with you for free? Or at least cheaper than shipping it?
pax139 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 07:33 PM   #12
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Regarding taking on the plane for free. A warning.
You gotta do your research on your airline.
Example: Continental Airlines has very low size limits and a frame box exceeds their limit and will net you a $100+ charge.
I have suffered their wrath.
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 08:35 PM   #13
IllSpecialist
iRide.
 
IllSpecialist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Bikes: Gan Well Pro, Flite 100
Posts: 218
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
DH, I'm heading to JP next month. Wanna pick up another Gan Well. What should I expect ot pay?

I know a few spots in the US that has them but they're all around the 2G mark. Ouch...
IllSpecialist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 09:11 PM   #14
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
A nice used one shouldnt be hard to get for 60-65,000 if you can come across one in your size for sale.
When are you getting here?
What size you looking for?
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 09:19 PM   #15
IllSpecialist
iRide.
 
IllSpecialist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Bikes: Gan Well Pro, Flite 100
Posts: 218
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thats not bad at all. Ill buy 2.

sept 23 - for 10 days. 55cm is my ish.
IllSpecialist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 09:25 PM   #16
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Oh ok. Im heading back to the states on Sept 8. I was gonna say id keep an eye out but it would probably be gone before you got here.
The Yoyogi Cycly had a GanWell last week but I didnt pay attention to the size or price.
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 11:05 PM   #17
Exempt
Bareknuckle Boxer
 
Exempt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
go to punch (i know it's around ueno park). search the track bikes in tokyo thread for the addy, or maybe deathhare will grace us with the location. *wink*
Exempt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-08, 11:13 PM   #18
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Punch aint near Ueno park
Paste the address into google maps
東京台東区雷門1丁目5−10
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-08, 03:49 AM   #19
Exempt
Bareknuckle Boxer
 
Exempt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i was on a bike, seemed a lot closer than it is.
Exempt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-08, 09:23 AM   #20
bdfresh
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 243
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i <3 nagasawas
bdfresh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-08, 12:13 PM   #21
craigmoyer
Senior Member
 
craigmoyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Bikes: FrankenBike
Posts: 196
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
if you order a panasonic off the website, it is like 79,000 yen new i believe.
craigmoyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-08, 11:14 PM   #22
deathhare
:jarckass:
 
deathhare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nashville
Bikes:
Posts: 6,562
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by craigmoyer View Post
if you order a panasonic off the website, it is like 79,000 yen new i believe.
You cant order it from the website but if you could it would be 85,000.
deathhare is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:48 AM.