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    Any One Interested in Polished Aluminum SS/FG

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    I am interested in comments on a SS/FG with polished aluminum frame, investment crown 4130 fork, precision hubs and 30mm rims.

    Especially interested in ideas of fair selling price



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    That's nice

    It would be nicer without decals though tbh
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    i jam my thumbs up and back into the tubes. this way i can point my fingers straight out in front to split the wind and attain an even more aero profile, and the usual fixed gear - zen - connectedness feeling through the drivetrain is multiplied ten fold because my thumbs become one with the tubing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04jtb View Post
    That's nice

    It would be nicer without decals though tbh
    That is one of the things about polished or brushed aluminum
    you can do about anything you like to it
    This frame is not painted
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    I would like to see it with a beefier fork to better compliment the frame's larger tubes. I'm saying $329 to $349 tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon View Post
    I would like to see it with a beefier fork to better compliment the frame's larger tubes. I'm saying $329 to $349 tops.
    I would go with a carbon fork, even if it means a little more money. An aluminum frame with a steel fork is a little anachronistic at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon View Post
    I would like to see it with a beefier fork to better compliment the frame's larger tubes. I'm saying $329 to $349 tops.

    Thanks for the input
    The fork in person is very nice - like KILO TT fork
    but maybe a big AL or Carbon Fork would be nicer

    On price - in 2009 price terms; it would be impossable even for us to get close to $329
    of course, Steel SST with less expensive wheels is currently selling so fast we can not keep in stock
    and I am just wondering on this type bike if anyone really wants Aluminum
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    Quote Originally Posted by huerro View Post
    I would go with a carbon fork, even if it means a little more money. An aluminum frame with a steel fork is a little anachronistic at this point.
    good point
    and a straight blade CF fork might be more modern looking

    we may stock that too
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    Yeah...it definately needs a carbon fork. That would make it way more appealing, even if it does drive up cost a bit.
    Also, whats the point of rack and fender eyelets for a frame that is clearly not designed for such things?

    It looks pretty tight...what sort of geometry are we talking about here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com View Post
    and I am just wondering on this type bike if anyone really wants Aluminum
    You have plenty of low-cost models. I think you have plenty of room to do something a little more expensive with better components all around. What you need is an aluminum model that is reminiscent of a Bianchi Pista Concept. If you get the look right (you have a very good start here with the frame and the wheels, but it has to look like a track bike), something like that would sell like hotcakes for $600. A carbon fork will definately improve the look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
    Yeah...it definately needs a carbon fork. That would make it way more appealing, even if it does drive up cost a bit.
    Also, whats the point of rack and fender eyelets for a frame that is clearly not designed for such things?

    It looks pretty tight...what sort of geometry are we talking about here?
    Geo is actually traditional road

    EYELETS and RACK BRAZE-ONS - I like these as they do not hurt the function of the bike and they add ulitity for those that want the. More and more people commuting; many on SS/FG - AND I think that is great. This bike can setup easy with fenders and rear rack for those that want to use it that way.

    This bike is not a 'track' bike - but a SS/FG for street use
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com View Post
    Geo is actually traditional road

    EYELETS and RACK BRAZE-ONS - I like these as they do not hurt the function of the bike and they add ulitity for those that want the. More and more people commuting; many on SS/FG - AND I think that is great. This bike can setup easy with fenders and rear rack for those that want to use it that way.

    This bike is not a 'track' bike - but a SS/FG for street use
    Just looking at that frame...it doesn't appear that fenders would be an easy fit.
    I'm with you 100% on the importance of functionality, but tarck sells better. Especially since you already have plenty of "functional" models available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
    Just looking at that frame...it doesn't appear that fenders would be an easy fit.
    I'm with you 100% on the importance of functionality, but tarck sells better. Especially since you already have plenty of "functional" models available.

    Fenders will fit - but you are right they are tight
    and we expect that more people who want Fenders would like the Fantom Cross UNO better

    Good point on high-end AL track like Bianchi or Fuji
    but street bikes do way out sell track
    that is just the numbers

    No reason for us to not have both
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    Quote Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
    You have plenty of low-cost models. I think you have plenty of room to do something a little more expensive with better components all around. What you need is an aluminum model that is reminiscent of a Bianchi Pista Concept. If you get the look right (you have a very good start here with the frame and the wheels, but it has to look like a track bike), something like that would sell like hotcakes for $600. A carbon fork will definately improve the look.


    I really like the looks of this Bianchi
    but can not find it on their site

    How much is this bike?
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    http://www.bikyle.com/Track.asp

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    about $600, but out of stock
    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    i jam my thumbs up and back into the tubes. this way i can point my fingers straight out in front to split the wind and attain an even more aero profile, and the usual fixed gear - zen - connectedness feeling through the drivetrain is multiplied ten fold because my thumbs become one with the tubing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04jtb View Post
    http://www.bikyle.com/Track.asp

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    about $600, but out of stock
    That is a framest for $600
    I can do the entire bike for that
    or something like Fuji Track Pro spec
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    I would like the original but with a carbon fork fersure.

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    Any pics similar to this of the phantom cross uno yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com View Post
    That is a framest for $600
    I can do the entire bike for that
    or something like Fuji Track Pro spec

    i have a feeling if you could do something like that, you'd sell every one you make.

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    If it was spec'd like a Fuji Track Pro, I would expect a better frame, even at $600. I'd pass at that price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheistyMike View Post
    Any pics similar to this of the phantom cross uno yet?
    Should have those next week
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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon View Post
    If it was spec'd like a Fuji Track Pro, I would expect a better frame, even at $600. I'd pass at that price.
    sorry
    you did not understand me
    if it was like the Binachi or Fuji AL pro level
    it would be frames like those
    not like this street/road frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by kylehutton View Post
    i have a feeling if you could do something like that, you'd sell every one you make.
    Absolutely. Consider how hard it is to get a Pista Concept. They are always sold out everywhere. I suggest a very track oriented model, but be sure to drill the front fork for a brake, so as not to scare people away (including me), and you have a definite winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com View Post
    Fenders will fit - but you are right they are tight
    and we expect that more people who want Fenders would like the Fantom Cross UNO better

    Good point on high-end AL track like Bianchi or Fuji
    but street bikes do way out sell track
    that is just the numbers

    No reason for us to not have both
    Not track....TARCK...A track-like bike intended for the street....thats what is in greatest demand at the $600 pricepoint, if similar in looks and quality to the Fuji or Bianchi.

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    i have anxiously been waiting to hear more about the dawes sst al . I have been waiting to buy myself one, and one for the old lady (who currently rides a heavy heavy trek pure)

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