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    Univega or Centurion question

    Hey folks. So I've got a question (or two) about a couple of low-end options that I have for a singlespeed, and I want to see if you all have any input. This would be a singlespeed commuter that would get me to and from school and around the city. I'm not trying to get too hip with it.

    The two frames (both hi-tensile) in question: mid-80's Centurion Cavaletto (made in Japan)... or a Univega Arrow Star (made in Taiwan, and I'm guessing mid-80's also). They're both in good shape, with the Univega being slightly cleaner, but just by a little.

    Does it matter at this level of bike whether it was made in Japan or Taiwan? Should that be a deciding factor if they both feel fine riding... or should I just choose one out of a hat?

    Thanks all!

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    if the size/fit is different at all, i'd go with the more comfortable one. i agree with you that their build quality is probably comparable.

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    i converted my old 80s Univega Arrow Speed to single speed a long time ago and this last year i rode it fixed and its been working out great... its definately a different geometry ("sport") than my other bikes, so its relgated to rain days and easy rides
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    Don't do either, hi-tensile steel bikes are boat anchors. Keep looking and you'll find a cro-moly version.
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    op wanted it to be a commuter, so weight would be an issue if he just wants a beater. but it really depends on how much you are getting these frames for.

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    the univega arrow star is $75, complete bike, hardly used (garage resident primarily).
    the centurion cavaletto is around $60, also complete bike.
    keep in mind, i'm in the bay area.

    regarding a cro-moly popping up, do you think $120 for a Univega/Miyata Suprasport in the Bay Area, CA is a decent price? Complete bike, but I'm looking for something to strip down to singlespeed. It rides well, just a little beat up with some surface nicks, dings and rust in some places. I'm not sure at where the price threshold should be; at what price point I continue looking for my future cro-moly singlespeed bike/frame. Being a student I guess does that.

    thanks all.
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    those are pretty good prices for bay area bikes

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    Seriously how much more do you think a hi-ten frame weighs than a straight gauge 4130? 12 pounds? 18?

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    so you're saying save my cash and don't let weight be a deciding factor.

    the two hi-tensile's have stamped dropouts, while the pricer univega has forged. are forged dropouts better for someone who's 215 pounds?

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    If you can afford the nicer one, get it. Forged dropouts are stronger and nicer. Fit should be MOST important tho.

    I was just saying that a hi-ten Univega is not THAT much heavier. It's not like a Schwinn Varsity or anything.

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    I just built this up for my buddy. It's hi-ten, stamped dropouts.
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    i rode the slightly more expensive univega (with forged dropouts) today and i did indeed feel more comfortable on it, fit-wise, than the hi-ten bikes. the top tube is a little longer which i like, being tall and having long arms. that's what got me thinking seriously about it, rather than saving some cash with the less $ ones. the frame is a little more banged up (no dents or bad connections, though) with scratches and some rust, but it did indeed feel more effortless riding it.

    hmm, maybe that's a good sign...

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    Here's what I ended up getting, if anyone out there even gives a unicorn's mullet... From a gentleman in a fancy home, I bought two cro-moly Miyata-built Univegas. A nice Tange Champion double-butted "Sportour" and a slightly more dinged-up (surface nicks) "Supra Sport." Quite the step up for me from the hi-ten bikes I mentioned earlier! I'm happy. Got em together for $220, which I know is a lot in some parts of the country, but a decent deal here in the Bay Area. They both ride great and fit really comfortably, which is nice because I'm 6'6". The Supra Sport is the first singlespeed project. I might keep the Sportour as-is.

    Thanks for your input.

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