Steel snob by accident
riding on the street with track geometry
the lbs where my dad works they might pick up felt. i was talkin with the owner and he was thinkin cost for the tk2 would be around $500. if you think it might be something else, feel free to input. i can get the steam roller for around $400. and i know felt makes a couple of other ss/fixed bikes. i still have yet to go to an lbs to ride track geometry, so what i like is still up in the air. just curious of what it's like to do track gemoetry on the street.
You'll be a bit more angled down - front/hands slanted forward and ass higher.
it's less comfortable than road with a slanted top tube of course, but it's really not that bad.
have you ridden a TT bike? It is moreso like that.
although player tip #1: test one out and see for yourself =)
They're not very comfortable on long rides.
They're fine for just putzing around town.
the steamroller has the geometry of a road bike, more or less, so it's more comfortable.
Top Tube Brake
Until I got my Pista Concept (or actually until I realized that one was within my grasp for cheap) I had my eyes firmly set on a TK2. Great looking frame!
Riding this concept around town before I actually bought it (now its just a frame and fork hanging from my ceiling) I immediately noticed what everyone else has always described about regarding the stiff aluminum frame and the tight geometry. Right now I ride a steel, somewhat relaxed, frame and have gotten pretty used to it. The Concept wasn't exactly uncomfortable for me (keep in mind this was a short ride) but I definitely felt every little teeny bump and imperfection in the road.
The track geometry offers a "twitchier" ride too, so it reacts faster to small movements. A TK2 for $500 sounds pretty neato... but a steamroller sounds great too. I think at some point though you get used to what you ride and it doesn't really matter. Just play with both and whatever you feel better with is what you should do Sleep on it first though!
not actually Nickatina
i routinely do long rides on my KHS track.
looking to get a road bike though.
track geometry is totally fine for around town.
i also have the khs flight 100/kilo tt - and long rides are fine for me.
it's definitely relative.
i have around 3700 miles on it in 9 months and have done half a dozen or so 100-125mi rides. Brooks seat ftw.
Although my commute is only about 6 miles each way, and it's fine for my Raleigh Rush Hour (75 headtube/75 seattube), I am having a frame custom made to be somewhere between road geometry and track. It's unpredictable when I actually go for longer rides of about 50 to 70 miles, and I want the bike to accommodate me on distances, too.
I don't think that I ride tricks or aggressive enough even around town that would justify a track geometry. I can maneuver around heavy traffic and other obstacles with even the most relaxed road geometry. With that said, I think that popular bikes from the Steamroller to the Bianchi San Jose are fine for many.
Last edited by powerband; 08-17-08 at 08:35 PM.
Fast and Danger
That all has to do with the fit of your bike, a track bike and road bike should fit pretty similar, a track frame will just have more aggressive geometry.
Originally Posted by comptechgsr
I've ridden my Fuji track pro on 100+km rides and have been completely comfortable.
Steel snob by accident
i have a conversion that i can do long rides with. i'd probably only do urban assault if i got the track bike. i know one of my lbs's carries bianchi's and i've seen that they have a pista so i'll probably try one of those out. and if i get the track bike i'll probably have it fitted because the shop where my dad works has a fitting machine.
I would get the Felt. Steamroller is basically a cleaned up road bike with track dropouts. I think if you're looking for a steamroller, you could easily have something very similar by getting a used road bike and making it into a fixedgear. That would save you money. On the other hand, there's not many other frames that could substitute for the Felt Track and be cheaper. Therefore, my recommendation. (i personally like riding tight geometry around town because it's slightly easier to react to traffic)
In smaller sizes the Felt has TONS of toe overlap. Nothing really wrong with this of course but it can make turning at low speeds a pain in the ass. The felt is a decent race bike but having ridden both a fair bit I would go with the Surly if there was no chance of real racing in the cards. The steamroller is more comfortable, handles better at low speed, more durable, more choices for tire thickness... better street bike.