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    110 vs. 120 rear spacing?

    are there any advantages or disadvantages of having 110 over 120 rear spacing?

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    120 gives you 10 more. As far as I know it's just how the frame was built. Track bikes have the narrow spacing. Some one who "really" knows will give the answer

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    the disadvantage is it's harder/more expensive to find 110 hubs..
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    The hub of 110mm standard is Keirin NJS standard.

    disadvantages
    It is unusual.
    Externals are old school.


    disadvantages
    Judging from diffusion, the purchase of parts of 120mm standard is
    easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomity View Post
    The hub of 110mm standard is Keirin NJS standard.
    110mm is the old NJS standard, now (as far as I know) all track bikes are made to the 120mm standard. AS people mentioned, it is just harder to find the older hubs for the older 110mm frames... I'd go for the 120mm if I had a choice- parts are easier to find and cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmh657 View Post
    120 gives you 10 more. As far as I know it's just how the frame was built. Track bikes have the narrow spacing. Some one who "really" knows will give the answer
    if you don't know, then why bother answering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00soul View Post
    if you don't know, then why bother answering?
    If you aren't talking about the issue at hand, then why are you posting?

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    120 mm is the modern standard and anyone who works with older bikes and non standard or obsolete parts knows what a pita it is to find what you want at a decent price.

    For example...

    I have a Suntour XC 7 speed mtb hub... it's beautifully made but will only accept a Suntour cassette...I am quite pleased and pretty lucky that I have an NOS one.

    I run vintage 27 inch racing wheels on my vintage road bike... high performance 27 inch tyres are hard to get but well worth it when you do.

    I ride Peugeots... 'nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00soul View Post
    if you don't know, then why bother answering?
    If you're going with a jackass answer like that you better have the knowledge to back it up. Spill it.
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    110mm rear spacing looks better IMO.... but nothing more is to be gained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    120 mm is the modern standard and anyone who works with older bikes and non standard or obsolete parts knows what a pita it is to find what you want at a decent price.

    For example...

    I have a Suntour XC 7 speed mtb hub... it's beautifully made but will only accept a Suntour cassette...I am quite pleased and pretty lucky that I have an NOS one.

    I run vintage 27 inch racing wheels on my vintage road bike... high performance 27 inch tyres are hard to get but well worth it when you do.

    I ride Peugeots... 'nuff said.

    Did you snag any of the 27" x 7/8" racing tires Harris cyclery had a while back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbattle View Post
    Did you snag any of the 27" x 7/8" racing tires Harris cyclery had a while back?
    Got them from a friend who decided not to use them... Avocet Time Trials (folding).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00soul View Post
    if you don't know, then why bother answering?
    To piss you off

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    110 spacing was common in old italian track bikes and came to japan when they started looking to italian design. 110 and 120 have always been allowed in keirin races. 110 used to be more popular but 120 has become so standardized i don't think there is an njs 110 hub currently in production. (i think dura ace stopped but i might be confused.)

    the hub that fits your bike is the best.

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    I have read somewhere before that rear spacing in NJS bikes are more preference for the rider. You can still obtain a 110 hub easily and order custom frames with the spacing. I have had both 110 and 120 and saw nor felt any real advantage over one another. It might be vain but 110 does look better, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Got them from a friend who decided not to use them... Avocet Time Trials (folding).
    Yeah, I snagged four of them, Avocet FasGrips. Great tires.

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    113* mm hubs also have slotted axles. the only difference is in the era at which each are/were standards. also the availability of 110mm hubs is limited to demand.

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    so there isnt really any advantage or disadvantage then (performance wise)? other than cosmetics and rareness of parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendForFixie View Post
    so there isnt really any advantage or disadvantage then (performance wise)? other than cosmetics and rareness of parts?
    to be honestly maybe because the chain stays are closer together it may result in being "stiffer" but noone on these boards is going to "feel" any advantage or disadvantage riding either one. i've owned 110mm sansins and 120mm duraace hubs. nomimal differences. i'd say the difference is in the quality of the hubs NOT the spacing.

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