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Old 09-03-08, 06:46 PM   #1
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Mark V and the Fahgettaboudit.

I'm thinking about getting kryptonite's beefiest because hayward, ca, isn't the friendliest place on earth. i don't know how comfortable i am with sheldon's "rear wheel only" approach and was thinking about locking up both the rear wheel and seat tube part of the frame. is the fahgettaboudit even big enough to accomplish this?
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I doubt it.
I have that lock and can't lock the rear wheel and seat tube on my Nagasawa and I'm betting my clearance is tighter than an IRO.
Not positive though.
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get 2 ulocks if you're that worried
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lock the frame w/ the ulock and get a cable to lock up both wheels. or get some of those locking axle nuts (dont know the name).
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lock the frame w/ the ulock and get a cable to lock up both wheels.
This is what I do.
For the record, i think Sheldon's rear wheel locking idea is a bad idea. The disadvantage of it was pointed out before many times.
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lock the frame w/ the ulock and get a cable to lock up both wheels. or get some of those locking axle nuts (dont know the name).
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If you have a nice bike, no lock is enough. Anything that can be adjusted, will be stolen. Where's that pic of someone who had their phil wood hub cut out of a rear wheel?
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If you have a nice bike, no lock is enough. Anything that can be adjusted, will be stolen. Where's that pic of someone who had their phil wood hub cut out of a rear wheel?
That's why I take my singlespeed order "to go"
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I carry a chain and my krypto mini-u when I'm in the city, and a cable and my mini-u in the suburbs or low crime areas.
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I carry a chain and my krypto mini-u when I'm in the city, and a cable and my mini-u in the suburbs or low crime areas.
My bro in law did that too, his bike was stolen in the "low crime area!"
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i have the Krypto evo and a cable for the wheels
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I doubt it.
I have that lock and can't lock the rear wheel and seat tube on my Nagasawa and I'm betting my clearance is tighter than an IRO.
Not positive though.
They sell two sizes (although the sizes escape me?) but I do know the bigger size will indeed lock up both wheels AND the frame of 99% of the bikes out there This is the one I have:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3D1%26hl%3Den but they are both VERY HEAVY!
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Old 09-03-08, 08:35 PM   #13
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Best advice I got, from the trusty LBS: where you park is more important than the lock. No lock foils the thief - it just slows the thief down. If you put on a lock that slows the thief and park in a place where the thief doesn't get time or cover to work, your bike is safe. If you have to park for any amount of time in an unwatched or secluded spot, the best protection is an ugly bike.

I'm just getting over my theft paranoia. It's a bike. A nice bike, sure. But what's the point of hauling around a lock that's so heavy that it makes your nice bike as heavy as a cheap bike? My LBS sold me an armored cable lock - a Rottweiler - that's easy to carry and use and tough enough that a thief is going to have to make some sort of scene to break it. That isn't feasible in most of the places where I park, and when it is feasible, I take the beater bike.
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The infamous "Bike Thief" video kind of shot down the theory that thieves need to "cover their work". Just go right up to that thing and start hacking away with the hacksaw, no one gives a crap...

Anyway, 2-Ulocks seems better to me than 1 ulock and a cable lock. One for front wheel+frame, one for rear wheel+frame+rack.
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i guess i'll get a cable too. i wish i could get a shrink ray and just keep it in my pocket.

thieves suck.
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a small U in the back and a security skewer in the front is all you need.
also, the pit locks for seatposts look pretty good.
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lock the frame w/ the ulock and get a cable to lock up both wheels. or get some of those locking axle nuts (dont know the name).
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The infamous "Bike Thief" video kind of shot down the theory that thieves need to "cover their work". Just go right up to that thing and start hacking away with the hacksaw, no one gives a crap...
Let's hope that one video in NYC isn't an accurate portrayal of the whole world of bike security.
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Let's hope that one video in NYC isn't an accurate portrayal of the whole world of bike security.
Unfortnatlly, it is. As long as you look and act like your supposed to be doing X, no one is going to even think twice about.
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This girl I k ow had her bike locked up outside with a u-lock. Someone tried sawing through it but they couldn't so instead they beat up her bike and put a nice sized dent in the top tube. It didn't get stolen but it sucks to see your nice bike all dented and scratched.
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This girl I k ow had her bike locked up outside with a u-lock. Someone tried sawing through it but they couldn't so instead they beat up her bike and put a nice sized dent in the top tube. It didn't get stolen but it sucks to see your nice bike all dented and scratched.
There is no cure for a-holes.
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I doubt it.
I have that lock and can't lock the rear wheel and seat tube on my Nagasawa and I'm betting my clearance is tighter than an IRO.
Not positive though.
+1
The lock looks big but it's really not when you gotta use it.
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i saw a 3Rensho frame that had its top tube sawed through in a failed attempt at stealing it. it was a sad, sad sight.
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I use the NY Kryptonite and a thick cable lock for the front wheel to the frame. Been using it for a few years now. Bike stays all day on the sidewalks of Manhattan. No issues yet. And it's a Mark V.
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You don't have to make your bike impossible to steal. You just have to make it harder to steal than the one next to it.
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