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Old 10-17-08, 08:36 AM   #1
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Thoughts on the BikeDirect single speed Dawes MTA

I've seen the listing for the new Dawes MTA on ebay and am interested in hearing from anyone who's bought one. I know it's a low low-end bikesdirect POS, but for $250 shipped, it's hard to pass up. I'm not interested in hearing a debate on the vices and virtues of bd in general. Curious that bd isn't listing it on their website yet. Before anyone says shell out a little more for a Windsor the Hour or Dawes SST, I'm interested in the Dawes MTA because it comes with both front and rear cross levers already installed and the price is $50 cheaper than any other bd single speed. I prefer cross levers -- they are just more comfortable for me. Don't really care about the cable guides, though I'm sure they offend some people's aesthetic senses -- just not mine. Also like how they kept the decals to a minimum and put them on top of the clear coat.

I'm not mechanically inclined, so don't really care to buy one of these bd other bikes, remove the stock brakes and buy and install cross levers. The caliper brakes look like junk, so I figure I'll use them until they finally give out and buy some affordable cantilever brakes. I know bd's Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno is a single speed with both front and rear cross levers factory installed, but I don't really want to spend the extra $150 upfront. From the pictures, the crankset doesn't seem to be much, but I'm not looking for performance, just something I can commute ten miles roundtrip on to work everyday. I figure if I like the bike enough, when the cog and other parts give out, I can eventually upgrade. What do people think about the frame and fork? Similar build quality to other bd single speeds? Did they manage to wring the extra $50 in savings on cheap brakes and wheels, or are the frame and fork considerably chintzier than their other single speeds? I've got no idea what a "durafort" frame is. Also, anyone know how heavy the bike is and if it seems to have more of a road or track geometry?

I appreciate the help with this.

Dawes MTA

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150303283425

Frame: Urban Single Speed Design, DuraFort, Water Bottle & Fender Mounts
Fork: DuraFort UniChrown w/ Fender Mounts
Headset: Tange 1-1/8 Threadless
Handlebars: Drop Bar
Stem: Aluminum 10 Degree Drop
Grips: Cushion Wrap Foam
Brake Lever: Radius 2 Finger Alloy, F & R
Brake(s): Radius Alloy Caliper F & R
Seat: Dawes Super Light
Seat Post: Alloy Straight Post 27.2
Crankset: 3-pc Alloy, Euro Cartridge BB, 42T
Chain: KMC Z410
Pedal: FPD Resin w/ Alloy Cage
Rim: Weinmann CN-520, 36H, Stainless Spokes
Front Hub: High Flange Alloy, 36H, Nutted
Rear Hub: High Flange Fixed/Free Alloy, 36H, Nutted, 16T Freewheel & 15T Fixed Cog
Tires: 700 X 28c
Extras: Front & Rear Fender Mounts, Removable Brake Cable Clips
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Old 10-17-08, 08:48 AM   #2
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Durafort I believe is basic chromoly nothing fancy but at least its not Hi-ten steel which would be the worst you can build a frame out of. The bike does look cheap because of the components and I'm sure that's how they saved money for building it so cheap. IMO just spend another $50+ and get the Dawes SST. It has been reviewed by members here and will have more info behind it than some no name dawes/ebay special.
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You get a much better wheelset, cranks, and brakes for the little bit extra you'd spend on an SST.

But whatever... it's a perfectly adequate bike for shlepping around town. Buy one if you want. If you want approval on this forum you'll have to spend at least $800.
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Old 10-17-08, 10:26 AM   #4
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This is the cheapest 47 frame I can find. Thinking about getting one, just to see if my girlfriend would like to get into biking. Can't justify spending $350+brakes on a 47cm Kilo TT, and the used bikes in LA are so overpriced right now... hmmm
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Old 10-17-08, 10:34 AM   #5
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You get a much better wheelset, cranks, and brakes for the little bit extra you'd spend on an SST.

But whatever... it's a perfectly adequate bike for shlepping around town. Buy one if you want. If you want approval on this forum you'll have to spend at least $800.
$800 isn't really that much for a bike.

This bike is probably OK for riding to the bar, but I wouldn't ride it to the grocery store. If I were in your position, I'd just buy a better bike and drop another $25 or so on a set of interrupter levers. That way you aren't spending $250 on a not so nice bike just because it comes with a set of $25 levers.
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Oh please, I rode a crappy old Schwinn Varsity for more than a year when I was a broke-ass college kid. I must have put more than a thousand miles on that piece of crap. This Dawes MTA probably rides twice as nice.
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I'm just telling it like it is.

The guy likes the bike because it has cross levers on it, which can be easily installed on almost any set of handlebars. And then there's the fact that if he only spent $50 more, he'd have a nicer bike. Unfortunately, $50 isn't really that much nowadays.
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I'm really just looking for something cheap, that's ready to go right out of the box in the setup I want. I want to know if bd cut corners on the parts, which I can clearly see they did (not complaining it's a really cheap bike) or is the frame substantially chintzier than their other single speeds? I mean $250 is really affordable. Yes, I can add interupters to the SST, but that's not really what I'm asking. Plus that puts me at roughly $350 for a bike. Mike, could you shed some light on the MTA specs by any chance?
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I exchanged some emails with the seller - the bike is basically an SE Draft Lite - I've checked out the Draft - BMX style cranks and brakes, kinda heavy frame, but if you just want a bike to get you around, it's fine - it won't assplode or nuthin -- if you're looking to spend money upgrading it down the road, you'd probably be better off buying a bit nicer frame to begin with



obviously the bike doesn't come with bragging rights, if you can't tell from the other responses
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You get a much better wheelset, cranks, and brakes for the little bit extra you'd spend on an SST.

But whatever... it's a perfectly adequate bike for shlepping around town. Buy one if you want. If you want approval on this forum you'll have to spend at least $800.
This is true about the sst, but even that bike is sh*tty. Go for the winsdor hour if you want something similar but with FAR better components.

And $800? Please... my drivetrain and wheelset total more than $800 alone.
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This is true about the sst, but even that bike is sh*tty.
Why? You don't like the bike? Not a fan of BD? It's not the best FG/SS out there, but I would not call it ****ty!
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And $800? Please... my drivetrain and wheelset total more than $800 alone.
So?

I had cranks costing more than that on my road bike
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If you want a simple cheap bike that will ride fine, but nothing fancy then go for it.
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Don't do it....
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DIRT BOY- why didn't you just use 1 post to make those points?
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So?

I had cranks costing more than that on my road bike
whatever, my spoke nipples cost 3000 apiece...
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So?

I had cranks costing more than that on my road bike
Please, the razor I use to shave my left nut cost more than your road bike cranks.
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Please, the razor I use to shave my left nut costs more than your road bike cranks.
Please, my morning sh*t cost more than the razor you use to shave your left nut.

*sips Oreo and diamond milkshake*
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whatever, my spoke nipples cost 3000 apiece...
Ok
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yeah well the razor I use to shave my right nut, is made out of your sh*t.
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Please, the razor I use to shave my left nut cost more than your road bike cranks.
alrighty then....I can see where this is going.

My point was Triplesixer was making some dumb comments that does NOT help the original poster. Ho0w many threads here go sooo off point?

The guy was asking about a cheap bike. he points out his wheels and crap cost over $800 BFD!

I have guys riding handlebars and stems costing as much as his bike.
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DIRT BOY- why didn't you just use 1 post to make those points?
Thoughts came separately. Who about helping the OP instead of bragging about your bike?
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