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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 10-20-08, 10:07 PM   #1
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roadie looking for a simple single speed...how's this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150303283425



Or This?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=380068947333

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Old 10-20-08, 10:10 PM   #2
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Someone already posted a thread about the first bike.. but i think everyone was telling that person to go for a different bike with better parts.
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Old 10-20-08, 10:10 PM   #3
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There's a big leap in price, and quality, there. What were you looking to spend?
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Honestly Under 500 or so would be nice since the wife would probably beat me if I add another expensive bike to the herd. I'm looking for a winter commuter and a ride around the hood with my son type of a deal-but I don't want a total piece of crap that I have up upgrade.
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Honestly Under 500 or so would be nice since the wife would probably beat me if I add another expensive bike to the herd. I'm looking for a winter commuter and a ride around the hood with my son type of a deal-but I don't want a total piece of crap that I have up upgrade.
I'm in the same boat...It's either that or buy a new road bike and convert what I have into a single speed...Buying a sub500$ single speed would be a lot cheaper than buying a new road bike...but then I'm out 500$ since I still will want to buy a new road bike down the line...
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You can usually convert a decent road bike into a single speed for very little money even after you factor in the cost of the bike.
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Old 10-20-08, 11:12 PM   #7
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You can usually convert a decent road bike into a single speed for very little money even after you factor in the cost of the bike.
yeah I'm quite confident I can convert it to a single speed with only a small net loss after I sell the components that are on it.
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How are the IRO bikes? I priced one out and it came out to around 670 or so.
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How are the IRO bikes? I priced one out and it came out to around 670 or so.
They seem good for the money and they have less of a track geometrey than something like a Pista (I have a pista and it beats me up more than my old short chainstay cdale). You can always go bikesdirect with the kilo tt pro and add some regular brake levers and either a smaller chainring or bigger cog.

unwanted advice: fixed gear riding is a lot more benefical and fun that singlespeed. Too bad it is so trendy as it really rejuvenates cycling for me after a season of freewheeling.
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They seem good for the money and they have less of a track geometrey than something like a Pista (I have a pista and it beats me up more than my old short chainstay cdale). You can always go bikesdirect with the kilo tt pro and add some regular brake levers and either a smaller chainring or bigger cog.

unwanted advice: fixed gear riding is a lot more benefical and fun that singlespeed. Too bad it is so trendy as it really rejuvenates cycling for me after a season of freewheeling.
I doubt it, I don't need my legs being flailed around by the pedals, it'll feel very strange going back to a geared bike, not to mention i'll be wondering why I have to work to turn over the cranks...But fun on the other hand it might be, still not the thing for me, i'll stick to being able to freewheel and leave all the fixed gears to the hipsters.
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fixed is way more fun in my opinion. Better connection to the bike and the road, and while the ride isnt quite as smooth, its easily a better overall experience. I still love the gears but damn I love fixed a lot too.
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I would not choose a track bike for commuting cause... well... they are really made for the track.

The longer stays and slacker angle on a road or touring bike makes for a much nicer ride.
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I doubt it, I don't need my legs being flailed around by the pedals, it'll feel very strange going back to a geared bike, not to mention i'll be wondering why I have to work to turn over the cranks...But fun on the other hand it might be, still not the thing for me, i'll stick to being able to freewheel and leave all the fixed gears to the hipsters.
That is fine, but if you are an experienced roadie a fixed gear will refine your spin and you wont lose your ability to pedal circles. I know some people get lazy and just use the momentum of the crank to get through the backstroke of the pedal cycle, but an experienced rider will not.

To be honest it does not sound like you have given a fixed gears a fair shake. I would cite all the awesome riders who ride a lot of fixed gear in the winter, but if doesent work for you it doesent work for you.
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Old 10-21-08, 02:21 AM   #14
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I was in Tuscon this summer and Ordinary Cycles had some affordable SS/FG bikes. Have you checked them out?
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Old 10-21-08, 05:37 AM   #15
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I doubt it, I don't need my legs being flailed around by the pedals, it'll feel very strange going back to a geared bike, not to mention i'll be wondering why I have to work to turn over the cranks...But fun on the other hand it might be, still not the thing for me, i'll stick to being able to freewheel and leave all the fixed gears to the hipsters.
The notion that one's legs are 'flailed around' by the pedals is absolute nonsense. Certainly it can happen if a rider does not have control of his spin, but it is not necessarily a part of riding fixed. Fixed gear riding can and does help to improve the cyclist's pedaling. While it is possbile to become lazy and let the cranks carry the legs, the proper technique of 'feeling' the pedal throughout the entire stroke benefits a nice smooth cadence.

And please, drop the idea that fixed gears are for hipsters. I have been riding fixed intermittently since 1987 and I assure you I sm no hipster.
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FYI: Schwinn Madison is a great bike for the money.
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Old 10-21-08, 07:20 AM   #17
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unwanted advice: fixed gear riding is a lot more benefical and fun that singlespeed. Too bad it is so trendy as it really rejuvenates cycling for me after a season of freewheeling.
that's debatable. a fixed gear can do a lot to **** up your knees. as far as the spin argument goes, ehh. it depends on the rider.
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If you have a road bike, and want to ride SS, why not just get some SS parts for your bike?, (surly SS converion kit, a chain tensioner and take off some chain rings and front derailer and you are away)

Although you said you want a winter bike, so I guess you want to keep your nice road bike frame out of the winter...

And it would be a hassle to swap it all over, but it would be a hellova lot cheaper!

That being said, the dawes is dirt cheap and you could probably sell it for the same price next spring!

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... I assure you I sm[sic] no hipster.
Hipsters always say that.
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Depending on your winter weather, you may want to consider whether you're planning on running fenders or not. The MTA you posted is drilled for fenders, the FBS is not.

I'm with Sixty Fiver, find a nice old road frame that fits you and spin on a BMX freehub. Something like this perhaps http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bik/883972247.html. This one is a little too nice for a beater, may be too big and you'd also have to deal with the conversion ethics question: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bik/887033101.html
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you should look into a surly steamroller...i commute on mine everyday, it's nimble, solid and comfy and you could run it as either a fixed or singlespeed
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How are the IRO bikes? I priced one out and it came out to around 670 or so.
I like my IRO just fine. At first I had it set up stictly fixed gear with bullhorns, and used it for commuting, errands and bad weather training, but my right knee began to give me problems. So I turned it to SS put some road bars on it and brake levers to better simulate my road bike position. Still use it for all the above....works for me.


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what about oso bike? It's ss only though, no flip-flop hub, and rear coaster brake. But it is reasonably priced at about $450 shipped.
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I'm not a BD shill, but their SS CX bike seems decent for the money if you can deal with a ****ty wheelset and a ******** (thanks to fixed geared "minimalist" idiocy) brake lever set-up. Put a set of full fenders on there and you have a nice winter commuter.
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Honestly Under 500 or so would be nice since the wife would probably beat me if I add another expensive bike to the herd. I'm looking for a winter commuter and a ride around the hood with my son type of a deal-but I don't want a total piece of crap that I have up upgrade.
There was an awesome 55cm Bianchi Pista with track bars at the Hilly for $495. Mathews Cycles, I think.
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