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    Aluminum or steel frames?

    Which do you prefer for a road bike/commuter/rec ride?
    looking between salsa casseroll (steel) Masi sp. commuter(steel) or the Specialized tri-x (aluminum).
    I can't freaking decide. It will be my first bike and only bike for now......

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    Steel is supposed to more comfy on bumps in the road compared to aluminium. I haven't ridden an aluminium bike so I can't really compare the two but I ride a steel frame and it's very good to me.

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    steel
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    aluminium with a carbon fork.

    both are good.

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    uhh - you just made this same thread yesterday: down to three choices. specialized, masi, or salsa?

    lock this up.

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    Steel unless you need to haul your stuff up and down stairs a lot and
    you are not into the weight.

    Aluminum reportedly fails differently (catastrophically) and has a shorter
    fatigue life, as said in 1 million threads/blogs/ads.

    That said I'd like to hear someone with a real background in materials tell me
    about this aluminum = the suck myth.

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    Steel is real!

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    commute with steel go fast with aluminum

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    That said I'd like to hear someone with a real background in materials tell me
    about this aluminum = the suck myth.
    me too.

    uhh - you just made this same thread yesterday: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=486104

    lock this up.
    whatever.

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    steel is just as light and handles better.

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    Steel is supposed to more comfy on bumps in the road compared to aluminum.
    With the clearance on the Tri-X you could have some meaty rubber to off set this and still run fenders.

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    My daily commuter is a steel frame. My tandem is an aluminum frame.

    Imo, for commuting, there is little difference. Maybe go for the aluminum if you are going to be hauling your bike around on public transit. Maybe go steel if you plan to beat up your bike a lot.

    Either is fine.

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    word. thanks to everyone for the advice and thoughts. When i do finally get something i will be sure to post some pics.

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    I've got both. IMO, your tire width, tube pressure, and bar configuration will make much more of a difference than the frame will.

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    Steel is my deal. But I'm gonna go alum when I build up my new CX bike I think.
    My Bike has so much nailpolish on it for touch-up paint I named it Emo

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    steel is a more comfortable ride because it flexes, but heavier than aluminium.

    aluminium is lighter, so its easier to climb. but you feel all the imperfections in the road.

    titanium is lighter still, so its even more easieer to climb, but the level of comfort is lower than aluminium.



    overall, its lightweigh VS comfort/investment. steel will last forever and be comfortable, aluminium/titanium if ridden hard will fail and be less comfortable. its a simple payoff.

    your choice.


    im not saying steel is better. its really lovely to have a lightweigth bike, but it depends on what you use it for. my personal commuter is steel for duability and comfort, and my weekend speed machine is carbon. previously aluminium.

    carbon is great on the road until it fails. then you have brocken teeth and wish you had a bike made of metal.

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    I am a ****** so I need all the help I can get - aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride Among Us View Post
    steel is just as light and handles better.
    False. An entry level steel frame will be at least one pound heavier than the equivalent aluminum frame. The aluminum will also be stiffer, meaning it wont bend around on you when cornering hard- this will give a more precise handling.

    Another thing to consider is that steel is a lot more prone to rusting and corroding than aluminum is.

    That being said, steel gives a great ride and is often worth the extra weight and additional flexiness. Maybe it's just in my head, but I feel better after a long ride on steel than I do on aluminum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiP0082 View Post
    uhh - you just made this same thread yesterday: down to three choices. specialized, masi, or salsa?

    lock this up.
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    whatever.
    Hey! I said something last time you started another thread that was exactly the same. Listen up: Don't keep starting new threads just to rephrase the same question and clog up the board. People have given you legitimate answers, which you don't seem to be listening to.
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    but the level of comfort is lower than aluminium.
    False. Ti absorbs more rode vibrations than aluminum and is closer to steel with a different feel all together.

    Another thing to consider is that steel is a lot more prone to rusting and corroding than aluminum is.
    Which was my first point in the first thread started.

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    I'd say steel. Simply, aesthetically speacking i like the steel frames alot better than the "new" alum look. Those Spesialized just look like mtb with skinny wheels. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambutrol View Post
    False. An entry level steel frame will be at least one pound heavier than the equivalent aluminum frame. The aluminum will also be stiffer, meaning it wont bend around on you when cornering hard- this will give a more precise handling.

    Another thing to consider is that steel is a lot more prone to rusting and corroding than aluminum is.

    That being said, steel gives a great ride and is often worth the extra weight and additional flexiness. Maybe it's just in my head, but I feel better after a long ride on steel than I do on aluminum.
    After I rode your aluminum bike, I decided my next bike will be aluminum. Did you ever figure out if those hubs had a problem though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2new2this View Post
    Did you ever figure out if those hubs had a problem though?
    i think it was actually just tons of rolling resistance from the thick thorn-proof tubes i was using haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambutrol View Post
    i think it was actually just tons of rolling resistance from the thick thorn-proof tubes i was using haha
    Well thats good. I would hate to have seen those hubs gone all the way bad or something. This weather blows man. I haven't rode in days.
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