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Old 11-16-08, 10:10 PM   #1
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Leader frames??

hey im looking at the leader track bikes on the website and they are 189 dollars for the frames. That seems like too good of a deal to me. my question is if this is the actual price im gonna pay or are there hidden fees or charges? thanks
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Old 11-16-08, 10:15 PM   #2
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luxury tax
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Old 11-16-08, 10:16 PM   #3
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well there is shipping which puts it to like 205 i think
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Old 11-16-08, 10:20 PM   #4
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plus leader export tax which is like 20$ a frame
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You pay the hidden cost of not being able to fit a 700c wheel in all models..
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Old 11-16-08, 10:39 PM   #6
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You pay the hidden cost of not being able to fit a 700c wheel in all models..
This is true...many hidden fees and costs
Frame: 189$
Shipping: 15$
Export Tax: 20-50$ (depending on model)
Not being able to fit a 700c wheel: priceless
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Old 11-16-08, 11:45 PM   #7
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add another $150.00+ for a fork
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Old 11-17-08, 06:07 AM   #8
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think of the sweatshop labour required to produce these bikes.
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Old 11-17-08, 09:11 AM   #9
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just buy it on ebay. Wheel will fit (LOL GUYS) and no "tax" they speak of. Btw. You'll get made fun of on the interwebs if you buy a leader, but it's only by forum trolls.
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i bought a leader, and i havent been made fun of yet. i have a feeling the next post after mine might make fun of me now.
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Old 11-17-08, 10:10 AM   #11
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i bought a leader, and i havent been made fun of yet. i have a feeling the next post after mine might make fun of me now.
HAHAHA i'm making fun of your post about people not making fun of your leader!
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Old 11-17-08, 10:31 AM   #12
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haha yes... i like you ftp and your teg by the way. is it a 4 door gs-r with a type r front end? i almost bought a might one a few months back.
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The only thing I paid besides the price of the parts was the shipping. No tax.

Why wouldn't you ask them yourself?
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haha yes... i like you ftp and your teg by the way. is it a 4 door gs-r with a type r front end? i almost bought a might one a few months back.
hehe thanks

it's a ls special edition with jdm front =)
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Old 11-17-08, 11:07 AM   #15
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I had a 4 door gsr. I miss it dearly.

As far as the 700c wheels, they fit . . . a quarter of the way into the dropout.
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that front end is so sick. i know this is off topics but is it modded

back to topic.....the axle is in the back half of the track ends....i dont really worry about it
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if you are getting the 721TR wait until after January IIRC when they are correcting the design flaw.
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oh, you'll pay......you'll pay!!!!! (shaking fist in the air)
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Old 11-17-08, 01:02 PM   #19
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is there such a thing as a low profile clincher?
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^i spoke with leader, it's not a design flaw. the 721 was meant to be used with low pro track tubulars not clinchers like 100.1% of the people on here use with that frame. With the correct tires there shouldn't be a problem and like Leader said, the 720 is for street use, the 721 is meant for the track. so once again, not a design flaw...
Are they kidding themselves Because that's exactly what the 721 is being used for, tarck use. You put on 700x19 tubs and its still going to be a ****** dropout. Name any other "track" or track frame where only the last 1/4 of the track end is useful.
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They're fixing the dropout issue
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^i spoke with leader, it's not a design flaw. the 721 was meant to be used with low pro track tubulars not clinchers like 100.1% of the people on here use with that frame. With the correct tires there shouldn't be a problem and like Leader said, the 720 is for street use, the 721 is meant for the track. so once again, not a design flaw...
How low of a profile can a tire get? It's a pretty big unusable space in the dropout.
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Old 11-17-08, 05:33 PM   #23
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you can fit a 700c in there but the bad part is if you get any chain slip and your wheel gets loose its gonna smash into your seat tube. so make sure you torque the axle nuts down plenty.
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^i spoke with leader, it's not a design flaw. the 721 was meant to be used with low pro track tubulars not clinchers like 100.1% of the people on here use with that frame. With the correct tires there shouldn't be a problem and like Leader said, the 720 is for street use, the 721 is meant for the track. so once again, not a design flaw...
no, it's definitely a design flaw....

the TR delineation doesn't make a difference as the 735tr doesn't have this problem....
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Old 11-17-08, 08:48 PM   #25
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UUMMMMM....my 721TR is fine to me, don't know what you guys a talking about.
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