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    The Madison is done!

    At least for now. Nicer brakes & Keo White pedals are on the way as well as the SOMA cranks.
    Also nice chrome cable clips to get rid of the zip ties. HS was upgraded to a Interloc Racing Tange.

    Hopefully I can find a nice 27.0 post with some good set-back.

    Once the Mercier is built, The Madison might get drop bars.



    Yes, I fixed the saddle level a bit!

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    Looks nice.

    But take off the back brake?

    Personal preference of mine.

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    looks pretty clean. how come you run a rear brake though?

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    I run SS and FG on this bike. Once the Mercier form BI is built, that will go FG/SS and the Madison will be FG full time.

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    Nice build! I really like the blue on those frames. I run front and rear brakes on my bike. (I run road levers with hoods) I really like the hand positions and having 2 brakes really balances the bike. (IMO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgatsby View Post
    looks pretty clean. how come you run a rear brake though?
    probably so he can, you know, use it to stop if he wants to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph0to View Post
    probably so he can, you know, use it to stop if he wants to.
    running a rear brake on a fg is counterintuitive and pointless, but now that we know he's got a flip/flop hub, i can see why he runs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgatsby View Post
    running a rear brake on a fg is counterintuitive and pointless, but now that we know he's got a flip/flop hub, i can see why he runs it.
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    I would ditch the white chain (tacky) and then use hoods rather than cross levers. if you're going to use two brakes, might as well take advantage of the comfort of two hoods. And then get some sweet road bars...you'd have a very nice singlespeed.

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    Nice build. Nothing wrong w/ two brakes on a FG. Saves your knees and tires from skipping and skidding. If you find a setback seatpost in 27.0, lemme know. I need one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyossarian View Post
    Saves your knees and tires from skipping and skidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bionnaki View Post
    I would ditch the white chain (tacky) and then use hoods rather than cross levers. if you're going to use two brakes, might as well take advantage of the comfort of two hoods. And then get some sweet road bars...you'd have a very nice singlespeed.
    I like the white chain for now. But I might go silver later.

    If I go with drops, I will be using road bars and one cross lever. I don't want hoods on this bike. I have a road bike as well. I want the clear look. I will use the Paul e-lever.

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    Dirt Boy, nice build!

    A couple questions:

    - How's the headset? In an ideal world I'd want to fit a CK on my wife's bike but if there's cheaper alternatives with as good quality I'd look into that too.

    - Does the chain tensioner actually work on the frame? I was thinking about putting on a set myself but I was concerned about the uneven horizontal dropouts.

    Oh yeah, I checked my stock seatpost and it too is a 27.0, but like I said in the other thread got a 27.2 to fit. Hope the 27.2 Thomson I have coming in works too.

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    I believe a long time ago on Sheldon Brown's site (I forget where.) I read that a front brake can provide all the necessary braking force you need and that a rear brake will give you no stopping force if the front brake is being used as much as possible.

    With my understanding of physics, I would think that this would apply to all bicycles, not just fixed gears.

    Can someone tell me whether this is right or not?

    I understand though that there are other environmental issues that also can influence riding conditions, such as slick roads, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilshaircut View Post
    I believe a long time ago on Sheldon Brown's site (I forget where.) I read that a front brake can provide all the necessary braking force you need and that a rear brake will give you no stopping force if the front brake is being used as much as possible.

    With my understanding of physics, I would think that this would apply to all bicycles, not just fixed gears.

    Can someone tell me whether this is right or not?

    I understand though that there are other environmental issues that also can influence riding conditions, such as slick roads, etc.
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougland89 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikepnoy74 View Post
    Dirt Boy, nice build!

    A couple questions:

    - How's the headset? In an ideal world I'd want to fit a CK on my wife's bike but if there's cheaper alternatives with as good quality I'd look into that too.

    - Does the chain tensioner actually work on the frame? I was thinking about putting on a set myself but I was concerned about the uneven horizontal dropouts.

    Oh yeah, I checked my stock seatpost and it too is a 27.0, but like I said in the other thread got a 27.2 to fit. Hope the 27.2 Thomson I have coming in works too.
    I have a few hundred miles on it form the dawes and it's fine. They are rated well.

    So far it seems OK. But I think the MKS will work better.

    I can't get a 27.2 to fit with 2 posts. I am afraid to try me Velo-Orange one in there. Then I can't return it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac View Post
    Looks nice! I like the blue/white theme. Looks real clean. What kind of wheels are those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bionnaki View Post
    I would ditch the white chain (tacky) and then use hoods rather than cross levers. if you're going to use two brakes, might as well take advantage of the comfort of two hoods. And then get some sweet road bars...you'd have a very nice singlespeed.
    i disagree, cross levers are where it's at!

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilshaircut View Post
    I believe a long time ago on Sheldon Brown's site (I forget where.) I read that a front brake can provide all the necessary braking force you need and that a rear brake will give you no stopping force if the front brake is being used as much as possible.
    Withing reason and if you are a responsible rider.

    Fronts brakes are usually 3 times a effective as rear brake. But certain situations require a bias to the rear. To maximise performance for all situations, you need something that's going to slow or stop the rear tire .. whether it's a rear brake or backpedaling.

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    Just curious as to what exactly was meant with regard to front braking force on Sheldon's site.

    I am by no means an expert on bicycle physics, but hopefully someone here is? Lol.

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    Very nice looking ride. The Madisons are gorgeous bikes. I still have to buy my first ss, and I think a Madison will be my second.

    Can you elaborate or link to the chrome clips you are taking about? I'm kind of a noob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Christopher View Post
    Can you elaborate or link to the chrome clips you are taking about? I'm kind of a noob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgatsby View Post
    running a rear brake on a fg is counterintuitive and pointless, but now that we know he's got a flip/flop hub, i can see why he runs it.
    Voicing ones personal opinion and then backpedaling is a waste of internet bandwidth. Why bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobber View Post
    Voicing ones personal opinion and then backpedaling is a waste of internet bandwidth. Why bother?
    well, if you read the thread from the beginning (i.e. we didn't know until a later post that he was running a fixed AND ss hub), you'll see that i wasn't backpedaling. my comment was based on the knowledge that he was running ONLY fixed and, IMO, running a rear brake on a fixed hub is pointless.
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