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Old 12-01-08, 10:36 AM   #1
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drops vs bullhorns

I'm getting myself some new parts for christmas and I can't decide if i want to keep using my drops and ride mostly on the hoods (i have both brake levers / hoods) or get bullhorns. Flop and chop is not an option btw
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Why not have both? Or is the question "should I spend my money on bullhorns or use it for other parts and just keep riding my drops?"

My answer is if you can't have both, then keep the drops and spend the money elsewhere. Bullhorns are just drops without the drop so it's just a matter of aesthetics. Beer wins over aesthetics. Or a nice quill stem.
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Why not have both? Or is the question "should I spend my money on bullhorns or use it for other parts and just keep riding my drops?"

My answer is if you can't have both, then keep the drops and spend the money elsewhere. Bullhorns are just drops without the drop so it's just a matter of aesthetics. Beer wins over aesthetics. Or a nice quill stem.
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out of curiousity do you ever search...im pretty sure i have started the same thread a few months back.

well if you dont ride in the drops but have hoods why does it matter? i have drops without hoods and didnt like them then got a shorter stem which made a huge difference. now i like them, but i used ot have bullhorns and still like them more.
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why not just get some old drops for cheap and flop and chop those?
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Don't you have more braking power on bullhorns than on the hoods? I'm using these and do feel I can brake harder when I need it.

http://www.somafab.com/pursuitlevers.html

Also, bullhorns are higher for riders with less flexibility (like me).
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ty for posts. I've been lurking other bike websites and staring at my bike sitting next to me since it's freezing and raining outside and I can't go ride and I'm going to have some money soon and just thinking of what parts I want to switch out and I really like how bullhorns look and they look like they ride so smooth and like you get more of a grip and more power with them compared to riding on the hoods or on the drops. I'm going to get a pair of bullhorns but I'm not sure I can put my brake levers on the hoods so I'd have to get a new pair if I did..

but none the less thanks a ton for replies! I'd like to see more
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Freezing and raining? If you are actually in VA "freezing" is quite relative. Ask our friends from Canada!

If you think it is too cold to ride I suggest spending your money on two things:
1) riding specific clothing for cooler weather (gloves, socks, shoe covers, balaclava, jacket - in that order) - oh, and a set of full fenders

2) rollers.
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Haha I did consider going out today after class but I just didn't feel like putting my self through it, lol. Plus I really doubt my tires would get any grip at all right now.
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if you want brakes on bullhorns you can run bar end lever like a on a tt bike or go with some cross lever like a cross bike. i have a crane creek cross stop lever on my bullhorns and its fine
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Haha I did consider going out today after class but I just didn't feel like putting my self through it, lol. Plus I really doubt my tires would get any grip at all right now.
Do they have a levitation field around them?

Bike tyres, the road and grip have a very similar relationship to car tyres, the road and grip.

What makes you think you'll have no grip?

Also: Use whatever bars you want, if you don't use the drops, then don't put your hands there *shrug*. I run Nitto bullhorns on my bike, and there've been days/times where I'd have loved to tuck into drops.
This being said, I ran drops on a winter beater last year but lacked the hood on one side (removed the lever) and it sucked not having it there - so your lever choices will be influenced by this.

Or, just grab a pair of cheapo drops and flip/chop as someone else said.

+1 to fenders and warm/appropriate clothing.
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i rode my friends bike with some pretty short (width) bullhorns otherday i prefer them over drops
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i rode my friends bike with some pretty short (width) bullhorns otherday i prefer them over drops
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Don't you have more braking power on bullhorns than on the hoods? I'm using these and do feel I can brake harder when I need it.
But that means you can achieve zen light™ by riding the hoods.
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i hate drops. i don't really hate them, but i never use the "drop"... ever. i don't know if it's just my body geometry, but i love my bullhorns, and have them on several bikes, and on my roadie (with typical roadie drops) i don't even use the drops in descents where i'm trying to get in a nice aero position, i just bend my elbows and stay on the hoods... go figure...
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usually bar end brakes or cross levers on bullhorns...
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I like bullhorns a lot - until I hit a bad headwind, and then i really miss drops.
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it's freezing and raining outside and I can't go ride
Why not?

Best upgrade I bought for my cycling kit is a wind/water proof jacket and some moisture wicking base layer. Don't be a sissy
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Yo! What up guys. I'm currently high as a fool at my friends house, and these replies are ****ing sick. Thanks so much and waht is this wicking base layer you are speaking of? And I'm getting bullhorns and probably going to use them a lot more than my droperinhos
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First thing I found on google, only a quick glance but it looks to be more or less applicable to cycling

http://www.flyfisherman.com/gearreview/rplayering/

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You need three basic layers to move moisture away from your body, regulate your body temperature, and protect you from outside elements: a base layer, a thermal (insulation) layer, and an outer shell made up of your jacket and waders. There are literally hundreds of products that will help you accomplish this goal. We have named a few important products here, and direct you to our bulletin board for more product suggestions and evaluation from other fly fishers. If you have anything to add, please join in to make this a more complete information base for fellow fly fishers. Base layer. Your base layer is the one that contacts your skin. It should be tight and stretchy for maximum mobility and contact with your skin. A tight base layer is less likely to bunch up when you pull the next layer over it. Stirrups on pants are a nice feature so they don't ride up, but some people find them uncomfortable for walking. The primary function of the base layer is to keep you dry by moving moisture away from your skin. Manufacturers call this "wicking."

You can often find varying "weights" of base layers. Thin, light weights are best when you expect to exert yourself or perspire--such as a long or steep hike into your favorite fishing hole. Thin layers wick more rapidly while thicker base layers offer more insulation. I prefer the performance of a thin base layer because I can wear it alone under my waders in the summer for maximum comfort, and just add thicker layers over it in the winter. Thick base layers are only good in one season. A new base layer on the market is Under Armour Heat Gear Leggings ($40) and Long Sleeve Turf Shirt ($35). This is the stuff NFL players wear under their uniforms so you know it manages moisture well and won't restrict your movement. In cold weather, try Under Armour Mock Turtleneck ($50) and Action Leggings ($50) as a base layer. Under Armour is introducing a line of base layer clothing in olive and tan colors for hunters and fishermen in 2005. Look for it in fly shops and the Cabelas catalog

Thermal layer. This is the layer that insulates your body and traps warm air between your base layer and your outer layer. Synthetic fleece is the best choice for fly fishers for a thermal layer because it wicks moisture from the base layer toward the outer layer, it breathable, and is warm for its weight. You can get fleece in many different weights to suit the conditions you are most likely to find on your local waters. It's wise to have at least two different fleeces, one a lightweight for late fall and early spring, and a heavier fleece you can wear mid winter. If you have the right fleece, your thermal layer should consist of just one garment, but in extremely cold weather, or if you just have two lighter fleeces, it's possible to have a thermal layer made up of two garments. Beware, this can get bulky, restrictive, and uncomfortable, depending on what you wear

Outer layer. Your outer shell should be a waterproof, windproof, breathable jacket and waders.
Blah blah blah. Ignore the parts specific to fishing and you get the idea.
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Cross Lever on a set of bullhorns is the only way to go
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i second that.....its comfortable or some pursuits
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i hate drops. i don't really hate them, but i never use the "drop"... ever. i don't know if it's just my body geometry, but i love my bullhorns, and have them on several bikes, and on my roadie (with typical roadie drops) i don't even use the drops in descents where i'm trying to get in a nice aero position, i just bend my elbows and stay on the hoods... go figure...
+1, I don't really like the drops...I never descend on the drops, my muscel memory is for the hoods and I just don't feel comfortable on the drops...I might get more power for the brakes on the drops but tricky descents require the right touch on the brakes. the best aero position is with the hands together so you don't catch lots of air...you just have to bend down.

I like bullhorns when I'm on the road with the fixie, but you gotta have drops for the track!
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What about drop bullhorns?
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