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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 04-10-04, 09:48 PM   #1
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Fixed Gear or SS tandem?

Do they exist? If so I must have one. I guess I better get a girlfriend for the tandem as well. Sheesh! nothing in life is easy.
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Actually i can't imagine how a fixed tandem would work so I doubt they exist. But a SS tandem should be doable, shouldn't it?
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A fixed gear tandem. Check your local velodrome. Yes, they do exist.
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Do they exist? If so I must have one. I guess I better get a girlfriend for the tandem as well. Sheesh! nothing in life is easy.
Awww, you're so cute.
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Why would a fix geared tandem not work? beats me!
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they do indeed exist. I saw something on the outdoor network with tandem track racing. The very interesting thing about the races I saw was that the (stoker?)
was blind. It was something like the special olympics, I don't really know. But man the were fast.
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Do they exist? If so I must have one. I guess I better get a girlfriend for the tandem as well. Sheesh! nothing in life is easy.
See attached photos of my F/G/tandem. It is a 70's era Gitane that has been modified with an extra tube from the top of the front seat post to the rear b/b to correct the rather loose bottom bracket stiffness that was inherent in these frames. I have recently put back on the T.A. Cyclotourist cranks that came with the frame after removing the outer and inner chain wheels. Now it is running a 42 tooth on the rear drive chain wheel and 17/18 tooth cogs on the rear Phil Wood hub. You should think long and hard before you decide to purchase one of these things. They are rather slow to ride as the increased weight limits their climbing ability on hills. They do fly when going down hills though. I think they are best used on flat bike trail environments as the power able to be transmitted by two competent riders is awesome. Everybody has to be in sync to make it really go fast. The handling is also much slower than a single as the increased length is something that affects the turning radius. I don't think that you could safely run a true brakeless Track Tandem on the streets as they are almost impossible to stop without brakes as the weight mass is nearly double what a single bike is. It takes some effort to haul this thing down to a stop. I have Kool Stop pads on the center pull brakes and they just barely work when you try to panic stop. they are fun, but a rather specialized purchase that is only justified if you have too much money burning a hole in your pocket or an unreasonable desire for something truly unique.


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Do they exist? If so I must have one. I guess I better get a girlfriend for the tandem as well. Sheesh! nothing in life is easy.
See attached photos of my F/G/tandem. I finally figured how to attach the pics with the new system in use here they are.


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thats a pretty bad ass bike.
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That bike is straight Rock 'n effing Roll! Now I have to keep my eyes open for one. Maybe if I can find an old decent tandem frame at a garage sale I can do one of those hack and cobble jobs to get her going as I don't have excessive money in my pocket.

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Do they exist? If so I must have one. I guess I better get a girlfriend for the tandem as well. Sheesh! nothing in life is easy.
The other thing I have heard about tandems mainly from multi gear riders but it would apply to fixed/ss also, is that they are responsible for breaking up more relationships than any other type of bike. Be sure that your significant other is at the same interest level of bicycling before any intense riding is attempted. They can be punishing for the rear rider if they are not attuned to the idiosyncrasies of tandem riding. They are rather harsh riding for the rear rider so it is important for the "Captain" or front rider to call out any rough road that is coming up or the passenger, or "Stoker", will soon tire of being slammed in the butt due to the impact generated by the wheel passing over the rough road that the rear wheel encounters. This applies to any frame material, steel, Alu , carbon fiber or whatever. For casual riding they can be fun if you just obey that rule. If both people are hammerheads then they can be great fun and very fast.
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Actually i can't imagine how a fixed tandem would work so I doubt they exist. But a SS tandem should be doable, shouldn't it?
Worst race accident I have been witness to was at the Oly Velo in Co Sprngs...track tandems.
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The thing I've never understood, when I see a couple cycling on a tandem, is why the female is always in the rear seat. Anyone who knows anything about tandems knows that you need the more muscular "stoker" at the back of the thing. If a woman and a man want to ride a tandem it would be logical if the male, who is usually physically stronger, sits behind the woman and not the other way around.
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Perhaps a visit to the tandem forum is in order. I'm curious too. It seems rather sexist, to me.


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The thing I've never understood, when I see a couple cycling on a tandem, is why the female is always in the rear seat. Anyone who knows anything about tandems knows that you need the more muscular "stoker" at the back of the thing. If a woman and a man want to ride a tandem it would be logical if the male, who is usually physically stronger, sits behind the woman and not the other way around.
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The thing I've never understood, when I see a couple cycling on a tandem, is why the female is always in the rear seat. Anyone who knows anything about tandems knows that you need the more muscular "stoker" at the back of the thing. If a woman and a man want to ride a tandem it would be logical if the male, who is usually physically stronger, sits behind the woman and not the other way around.
In earlier times when tandems were first developed there were, in fact, tandems made with a dropped frame in front and the man rode at the rear. This afforded the woman an unobstructed view. The irony is that they were also steered from the rear by a linkage. I think that it is, in fact, a sexist holdover from that era. There is a factor that is in play that it does take a lot of upper body strength to muscle a tandem around and that may account for the preference for the male in front positioning. Also, the frame is usually smaller as you go towards the rear to accommodate the shorter stature of the women. Not that it has to be built that way, as custom building can accommodate a different dynamic if present. Maybe it also relates to the "man must be in charge" syndrome that permeates the society as it exists today. Not that it should be, but is. There is probably a sociology study waiting to be published here if anybody cares to pursue it. The rear person is often the powerhouse when used in the racing context and therefore should not relegate the women to the rear as is often the case. It is a curious tradition none the less.


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In the town where I live, I've been noticing an old tandem that is for sale outside of a thrift shop that I occasionally drive by. I'm sorely tempted to stop by and buy the thing, but me wife, I'm sad to say, is not much of a cyclist, and has already balked at the idea of riding it with me. It sure looks like a nice peice though. It has old sprung saddles and everything. Maybe I'll just ride it myself. Anyone rode a tandem by themselves before? Is it feasible? Thanks Gurgus.
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In the town where I live, I've been noticing an old tandem that is for sale outside of a thrift shop that I occasionally drive by. I'm sorely tempted to stop by and buy the thing, but me wife, I'm sad to say, is not much of a cyclist, and has already balked at the idea of riding it with me. It sure looks like a nice peice though. It has old sprung saddles and everything. Maybe I'll just ride it myself. Anyone rode a tandem by themselves before? Is it feasible? Thanks Gurgus.

I have ridden mine alone but you have to fix the toe clips so that they don't hang down and drag every time they rotate. I use bungee cords between the front and rear set of peddles. It is always good for a few comments by passersby to the effect, "Hey you lost your other passenger".

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I have ridden mine alone but you have to fix the toe clips so that they don't hang down and drag every time they rotate. I use bungee cords between the front and rear set of peddles. It is always good for a few comments by passersby to the effect, "Hey you lost your other passenger".

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Ha, I bet they always feel so smug about that line, like they are the first one to come up with it.
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