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Old 12-18-08, 08:55 PM   #1
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110vs 120 track ends

recently a friend of mine offered to sell me his old njs frame. my concern is that it has 110mm ends, does this effect the strength of the frame, it would be ridden mostly on the street. would it be smarter to wait for a frame that has 120 ends.
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Old 12-18-08, 08:56 PM   #2
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no but you'll want a 110 hub. or you can cold set it but then I'll kill you
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recently a friend of mine offered to sell me his old njs frame. my concern is that it has 110mm ends, does this effect the strength of the frame, it would be ridden mostly on the street. would it be smarter to wait for a frame that has 120 ends.
are you really asking if it's less "strong" ....

c'mon now.
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Old 12-18-08, 09:56 PM   #4
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i was just wondering what the pros/cons are of using a frame with thinner dropouts.
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Old 12-18-08, 10:03 PM   #5
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It doesnt have thinner drop outs. The rear spacing is just narrower.
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if by thinner you mean it used 8mm slotted axles vs 10mm ones...but that doesn't have anything to do with frame strength either...

this keirin frame that you'd be riding i assume is NJS approved, which was approved from some board in japan for track racing. i think* it'd be strong enough for you....
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This is a bad idea. Studies have shown that you are more likely to tip over with an old style, narrower frame. This is why modern road frames have moved to 135mm spacing. They are far more stabile.
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If you get an NJS frame City law is that it shall be outfitted with NJS parts
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how much less stable would the 110 ends be in comparison? would this be a problem riding on city streets?
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This is a bad idea. Studies have shown that you are more likely to tip over with an old style, narrower frame. This is why modern road frames have moved to 135mm spacing. They are far more stabile.

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Just because you read something in here does not make it so. Find a large grain of salt and digest it.
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troll.
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Are you really this easy to fool?
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um....wider hubs provide for a wheel with less dish. I suppose you could, if you really wanted make a fixed wheel with dish...just for kicks and giggles. Then you could use a wider hub to reduce the dishing you just gave it...

I take that all back, wide hubs are good for bikes with many gears. The more gears the wider the hub should be. with
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um....wider hubs provide for a wheel with less dish. I suppose you could, if you really wanted make a fixed wheel with dish...just for kicks and giggles. Then you could use a wider hub to reduce the dishing you just gave it...

I take that all back, wide hubs are good for bikes with many gears. The more gears the wider the hub should be. with
the hub shells on da7600 110mm and 120mm are exactly the same. the only difference is the axle and spacers
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Precisely because single speed wheels are inherently dishless. Imagine though if there was a giant freehub on one side? That would change things a bit wouldn't it.
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um....wider hubs provide for a wheel with less dish. I suppose you could, if you really wanted make a fixed wheel with dish...
not necessarily, most single cog track hubs have some dish. some more than others.

Phils have a lot. center to flange 44.0 / 30.0
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