goatmeal

I am planing to sell a bunch of my bicycles here soon, downsize you know. I figure with the money I get from selling my 2003 pista (61) as well as other misc crap piling up in my basement I can make one bike super sweet.

I figure it would be nice to get a set of matching parts for which ever bike I decide to focus on. I see this full miche track group for 400, which to me seems like a good deal. Does any one have any experience with this group? I figure I could build up the hubs with cxp33s or open pros. Either I go this route or I sink all my money on a Phil Wood wheelset, and just use exsisting parts.

Any thoughts you all have would be greatly appreciated.

Oh yeah here is the link,
https://www.repartocorse.com/catalog/...rack-group.htm

daneil

I don't know where you found this full Miche group for 400 but Chuck's bikes has the full group for $285. Take a look.

https://www.chucksbikes.com/store/

jimv

I was checking out the Miche group....It seems really nice, but for some odd reason, they are 135 mm BCD (Campy road standard). If you plan to use 3/32" chain/cog then you're OK because there are lots of companies making 135 BCD chain wheels but if you plan to run 1/8" chain/cog then you're married to Miche for chain wheels, unless someone has found another source. I don't know why the Miche is not 144 BCD.

Even though I think the Miche is prettier, I decided to go with Sugino 75's. I have a set of Phil's on one of my bikes and really like them too.

Jim

goatmeal

Thanks for the tip on the cheaper price Daneil,


I would really like a set of Phil's, I mean really are there better hubs made on this earth?

OneTinSloth

another kinda bad thing about the miche cranks is that the chainring bolts thread directly into the chainring arms...it's kinda cool, but if you cross thread a bolt, then you have to go and drill out the hole to make room for a normal bolt. eh.

streners

It's a good price for the group, I did have a problem getting a tool that fitted the BB, it's supposed to be campy compatible but mine wasn't quite right. I had to file the lockrings to shape. You also get some pedals which you probably won't want and neither will anybody else. I'd really only buy it for the crankset which I like and the hubs which work well. Oh the sprockets are cool too because they come with the carrier that lets you change sprockets without a chainwhip. Not that I have changed sprockets yet, and I have a chainwhip, but the principle is something I like.

hammye

I had my rear hub crap the bed in a matter of weeks of purchase. It made awful noises as it died. But then again that was in the winter, If you plan only nice weather rides you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I think I am saying go with the Phils or go with the IRO hubs. Sealed bearing and cheap.

inkdwheels

What all are you selling? And how much do you want for that pista frame and fork?

goatmeal

Yeah I am leaning for the phil's, especially since I ride year round here in Minnesota, and seem to have a fondness for destroying hubs/chains/etc.

Most of what I am getting rid of are the typical road bike conversions, most of which I already have buyers for locally. I really am not in this to be making any money, the majority of the bikes I am getting rid of I am either giving away or selling sub 100$ level.

I really hadn't considered parting out the Pista, so I guess I don't know what I would sell the frame/fork for. It is in really good condition, with a few minor chips, nothing major. Mostly stock except I switched opted for a ritchey stem which is a little shorter, also ritchey pedals instead of the wellgos r whatever. It does have a front brake installed, a slick looking black CODA caliper, with diacomp levers (also black). If you want to make me an offer, I would be willing to hear it, I don't mind the idea of putting the components on a different frame... Because am I wrong, or are the Pista hubs sealed cartridge? They look it at least.

The only problem I have had with the bike, is a creaking sound from the bottom bracket when I crank down really hard. I suspect the problems lies in a need for extra grease in the threads of the BB, I lack a splined crank puller or else I would check this out. This hasn't affected the ride though, still fast and true...

I also have a set of track tubular wheels, I am planing to put on ebay, I don't remember who made the rear hub, the front is suzue (older). The rims are wobler, which are french made if I am not mistaken, with a 18t surly cog.

Does anyone know a good place to get Phil wheels built? Or would it be best to just buy the hub/rim and have my LBS do it for me...?

Thanks

hammye

I would say that if you know someone localy that can build a god wheel that you should go with them. If not, go through harris cyclery. I know that they are fine wheel builders.

lucklust

Ooh ooh, I want one!

hammye

A "GOD" wheel just tears up pavement as you ride. Destruction with every rotation. Think of it as the 3 cross apocalypse.

cavit8

Or Bike works NYC has 'em for $175 (assuming the same group).
https://www.bikecult.com/works/parts.html

I don't have any experience with any of this stuff

I've got an old Sakae crankset with an old campy style 144 ring. My LBS keeps telling me to switch to a cartridge BB..... but i've been holding 'em off..


Cam

Bikkhu

I'v got Miche Primato 167,5mm crankset and BB on my Soma, working fine so far

The only thing is you have to use Miche chainrings, which are 135mm spaced (Same as Campy road set). Hubs are supposedly very good indeed