eogie

Mhmmm. Might be my next bike, after I see the next generation.

https://vassagocycles.com/fisty.html

Cynikal 

A 5+ pound frame and fork for $579? Sounds a bit spendy to me, other than that sounds like a good frame with many options.

eogie

Yeah, it ended up being a bit more than I wanted to spend, but it's a perfect do all bike in my opinion....and it's not a Crosscheck.

Cynikal 

Agreed. I think the dropouts really help sell this.

RoyIII

I like it.

Ride Among Us

Whats the difference between that and the phantom cross uno? it looks like the same frame. i like both bikes. i want some fat wheels like in that picture. i wonder what rims those are.

Geordi Laforge

Like all things Vassago, the Fisticuff is not for everybody. In fact, we are pretty sure it will piss a few people off, but that is ok by us. Think of it as a trail capable 'cross frame with a ton of options and attitude.

Like the Jabberwocky, the design began as a custom frame created because we couldn't find anything out there that fit our needs as a singletrack luvin', aggressive commutin', rack capable, bunny hopable singlespeed roadie with brake and gear options....whew.

Attitude! Extreme! Throw your flat brim hat on and slam a Mountain Dew before you dare commute with the FISTICUFF!

shapelike

You have no idea what you're talking about, but hey, it's the internet so who cares?!

Geordi Laforge

I made a crack at their lame copy-writing that's even worse that Surly's, but apparently that went over your head. but hey, it's the internet so who cares?!

rudetay

The disk brake mounts on the rear track ends would be really annoying to deal with.

They have proper sliding ones on another frame:


Wonder why not on this frame?

rudetay

They look like Salsa Delgado Cross rims.

dookie

can you say 'steamroller'?

MIN 

Very nice. I want the frame but the fork is suspect.

dayvan cowboy

i like the frames, but I don't like the names.

MuddyPaws

love me some 'wetcat'

Standalone 

Hey, we've had enough er... snark-y comments in this thread already.


Jeez.

werewolf

"Fisticuff - cross inspired urban bas tard". What is that supposed to mean? What sales market are they aiming at?

That bike doesn't look like it would do anything well.

Geordi Laforge

yeah, I wish bike company websites would just stop with the edgy copy-write (or stop all of the copy-write) and just post pictures and geometry and specs - that's what we care about. No one really cares about your philosophy on life or how much "attitude" your frames have. spare us the lifestyle marketing.

MIN 

bike companies are marketing companies, you fools. these frames are all made by a third party in taiwan to the spec vassago provides.

elTwitcho

disc brakes > steamroller if you're gonna be riding in suck weather, especially snow

Santaria

I think I'd stick with the Fantom Cross Uno and get the 42c wheel clearance sans disc brakes and spend only $399 for the same frame (even the geometry looks the same); perhaps I'll invest in a rattle can of poo poo brown to fit in.

shapelike

Have you ever even ridden a mountain bike? The guys riding steel bikes on singletrack are not the ones with flat-brimmed hats slamming Mountain Dew.

Geordi Laforge

I dont ride that discipline, no. but my comment had very little do with singletrack and more to do with the company's website and the "attitude" they are trying to project. so relax.

eogie

The Fantom Cross Uno can not be built up as a geared bike. Something I'd be interested in, but probably not many of you.

rudetay

Steamroller frame + new fork = less than this frame and then you have:


But yeah, the canti mounts make much more sense than caliper, and that it comes with a disk fork is awesome. Also, the 130/135 spacing allows for more versatility of use. It's not really similar to a Steamroller or Cross Uno at all, if anything it's closer to a Karate Monkey.