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Old 01-07-09, 02:04 AM   #1
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kilo tt? Or save for Soma?

Ok so im in a rut here...im looking to build up a street machine and have some parts already waiting to be put on a new frame. I initially wanted the Soma Rush frame that is gonna run me about $500, but recently i saw the Mercier Kilo TT on ebay for like $215.

My question is...should i save the money and just get the kilo tt or is it worth it to spend the extra money on the Soma??? Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks in advance
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Old 01-07-09, 02:20 AM   #2
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You can get s NEW Kilo for 350ish. as the soma goes for 350 frame w/fork maybe even a headset I'd go fore the Soma.
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jeez, I'm not usually in the habit of saying "S5ARCH" or however the kids are doin' it these days, but there have been a serious spate of these questions of late. Are people capable of making informed decisions on there own without having the approval of bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet? Or is that just asking too much? I'm sure you know the pros/cons of each frame by now, so go over them, decide which one is more worth it to you, and purchase your decision. Simple, and how decisions were made for the thousands of years of recorded human history prior to the advent of the "internet".
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Soma looks sexier.
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there's a lot of dickheads on this forum. get over yourselves and help the noob out. lol
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I have a kilo, i don't see any problems with it at all. i think it rides as well as it looks. imo
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jeez, I'm not usually in the habit of saying "S5ARCH" or however the kids are doin' it these days, but there have been a serious spate of these questions of late. Are people capable of making informed decisions on there own without having the approval of bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet? Or is that just asking too much? I'm sure you know the pros/cons of each frame by now, so go over them, decide which one is more worth it to you, and purchase your decision. Simple, and how decisions were made for the thousands of years of recorded human history prior to the advent of the "internet".
thanks buddy...thats the exact answer i was looking for
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thanks buddy...thats the exact answer i was looking for
Glad I could help
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there's a lot of dickheads on this forum. get over yourselves and help the noob out. lol
Don't see you offering any suggestions.
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I was in the same dilemma. I ordered a Kilo TT but the wrong size. If they end up getting a 50cm return I'm taking it.

Otherwise, going with a Pake. The Soma rush is only like .8 lbs lighter than either of the two and if you're using the bike to cruise the streets, I don't think you'd even feel the difference.

The geometry on the Soma might be better but with the money you save, you can use towards a better wheel set or whatever.
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i want a soma for myself. its my next goal. in my opinion, I see too many kilos everywhere. but if you get the bikeisland kilo frame, nobody will know you have a kilo since it has no branding on it, so it won't be so bad. if money is the issue, go with the no-decal kilo. but if you can afford it, get the soma.
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where do you live? I have never seen another kilo in my area, just Dawes and messengers on my campus and surrounding areas.
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i want a soma for myself. its my next goal. in my opinion, I see too many kilos everywhere. but if you get the bikeisland kilo frame, nobody will know you have a kilo since it has no branding on it, so it won't be so bad. if money is the issue, go with the no-decal kilo. but if you can afford it, get the soma.
Yea i can afford the soma, but im just thinking about what i spend the extra $250 bucks on as far as parts go, you know? But then if i buy the kilo, i feel like im going to regret not just biting the bullet and buying the better frame. Ahhhh i dont know
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you probably won't regret it. those white kilos look badass and i haven't yet read anyone who regretted buying one.
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oh yeah and as far as regrets, before you start your build, here's the regrets that i've had are:
1)buying the izumi V - too much money for a chain that seemed no better than the cheapest izumi that i bought later for my other bike. waste of money.
2)buying deep vs: i was much happier with fusions (lighter) and mavic ellipses. deep vs are over rated and heavy. fusions are just as strong.
3)buying a Chris King headset: no need to spend that much. I like my cane creek s2 just as much and it costs 20% of the CK.
4)buying a sugino 75: the andel or alien crank is just as good for way less.
anyways, good luck on your build.
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kilo or get a used some made of the 631
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jeez, I'm not usually in the habit of saying "S5ARCH" or however the kids are doin' it these days, but there have been a serious spate of these questions of late. Are people capable of making informed decisions on there own without having the approval of bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet? Or is that just asking too much? I'm sure you know the pros/cons of each frame by now, so go over them, decide which one is more worth it to you, and purchase your decision. Simple, and how decisions were made for the thousands of years of recorded human history prior to the advent of the "internet".
Haha, this guys is a DICK!
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oh yeah and as far as regrets, before you start your build, here's the regrets that i've had are:
1)buying the izumi V - too much money for a chain that seemed no better than the cheapest izumi that i bought later for my other bike. waste of money.
2)buying deep vs: i was much happier with fusions (lighter) and mavic ellipses. deep vs are over rated and heavy. fusions are just as strong.
3)buying a Chris King headset: no need to spend that much. I like my cane creek s2 just as much and it costs 20% of the CK.
4)buying a sugino 75: the andel or alien crank is just as good for way less.
anyways, good luck on your build.
Yea i really like the white kilo's...i was kinda iffy on the ones on eBay because they have no decals and stuff and i was thinking that they could just be some random steel frame, but your saying they are legit?

Thanks for that list...i read a lot about chains and have realized that its pointless to spend anymore than $15 on a chain. I was also thinking about the sugino 75 and a chris king headset, but the cane creeks are more in my range and im just gonna use the sugino messenger that i have laying around. And about the deep v's, i already ordered them but its cool, they are waiting in my garage, with brand new vittoria zaffiro's and stuff...
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Haha, this guys is a DICK!
Or he's just frustrated with posters like you who create new threads about the same topics once every few days.
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Or he's just frustrated with posters like you who create new threads about the same topics once every few days.
Yes, god forbid people discuss things on a discussion board. If you keep seeing the same things far too often, perhaps it's a sign that you're hitting the refresh button far too much. Searching is good, but since EVERYTHING has been discussed already, more or less, people are bound to repeat topics. Also, sometimes things change, or someone who has owned the equipment in question can provide an updated answer without drudging up month old threads, which others will rag on them for as well.

If you are finding yourself getting angry at seeing the same old threads, perhaps it's time to step away from the keyboard and get out the house for a while. Bike forums will still be here when you come back.

edit- And Even if it's the same person asking the same thing, who cares? Just put them on ignore or simply don't click on their threads. It seems backwards to go out of your way to write a big reply to someone who is simply pissing you off. And yes, irony duly noted.
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Haha, this guys is a DICK!
Ha, at least I've actually contributed something. You're just making an insult. I wasn't even talking to you, but obviously I've struck a nerve.

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Searching is good, but since EVERYTHING has been discussed already, more or less, people are bound to repeat topics.
This is also called beating a dead horse. I just think people should look for the answer before blindly asking questions. The information is on here, if you take a few minutes to look you'd be able to decide pretty easily I think.

As far as hitting the refresh button, yeah, I am guilty of that. But I'm at work, so I can't leave the house. I rely on all of you for some periodic entertainment. Hope you don't mistake that for anger.

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If you are finding yourself getting angry at seeing the same old threads, perhaps it's time to step away from the keyboard and get out the house for a while. Bike forums will still be here when you come back.
Anger doesn't have to accompany a pointed argument.

I spend more time on BF sifting through repeat posts than I would if people used to search function (and some common sense about what has probably already been asked), so perhaps you should take this issue up with said people.
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I initially wanted the Soma Rush frame that is gonna run me about $500, but recently i saw the Mercier Kilo TT on ebay for like $215.
And to help you out, OP, the Kilo TT framset is ALWAYS on Ebay for that amount. Bike Island (the Ebay store) is part of Bikes Direct. I'd save up until you can afford the Soma, and then pull the trigger on either. If you decide on the Soma, you'll have a sweet frame. If you decide on the Kilo TT, you'll have an alright frame with extra cash for (a lot of) beer.
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I have a kilo and it rides nicely.
I have a friend who has a rush, and it rides just as nicely. Geometry isn't vastly different, but if you're new to riding I'd get the kilo and spend more money on components that you'll definitely feel a difference with.

I think people look too much into frames. Frames are an essential part of the bike, but unless you're a veteran, the only important thing about a frame is the geometry and sizing.
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I like the Kilo TT, personally, as I have said many times in the past. I kind of take pride in having a bike that is as functional as name brand bike (e.g. a Surly or Bianchi).
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