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    Rode a 53 Swobo Sanchez

    Rode my friend's and it felt perfect. I ordered a 53cm Pake but the seller hasn't shipped yet. They have 51's in stock.

    Looking at the specs/geometry of both bikes....

    53cm Swobo Sanchez

    Virtual Top Tube: 535
    Actual Top Tube: 521
    Standover: 30"

    51cm Pake

    Virtual Tob Tube: 525
    Actual Top Tube:525
    Standover: 30.4"

    53cm Pake

    Virtual Top Tube: 540
    Actual Top Tube: 535
    Standover: 31"

    So if the 53 Swobo felt good, the 51cm Pake is what I should really go for, not the 53 Pake?

    I contacted the seller and they are able to send a 51cm Pake instead.

    So this is obviously what I should do, right?

    The actual top tube is what matters, not virtual?

    PS. Going into the LBS I offended and paying them to assemble my bike and picking up a seat post from em. Thanks for the much-needed kick in the ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve90068 View Post
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    Really? What makes you say that? The 53cm Pake essentially fits like a 55cm Swobo, right?
    I have to make the decision by midnight tonight, so if you can explain to me why, I'd be stoked.
    Sorry I'm always asking and never answering, I'm a noob.
    Thanks

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    do you want a bike with a little longer reach or a shorter one? there's your answer

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    virtual top tube is what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw286 View Post
    do you want a bike with a little longer reach or a shorter one? there's your answer
    Ok, well if the virtual top tube is what matters....

    The reach on the 53cm Swobo is good, but I wouldn't want it any longer.

    So if the virtual top tube difference between the 53 Swobo and the 51 Pake is only 10mm, is that going to be a huge difference?

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    no. you can get a shorter or longer stem to make up for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw286 View Post
    no. you can get a shorter or longer stem to make up for it
    Alright cool, thanks. I'll go with the 51cm.

    It just feels weird that I'm 5'7" going with the 2nd to smallest size in the size-chart. But hey, its similar to my friend's 53 Swobo, so what fits fits.

    And out of curiosity, what is the difference between virtual and actual top tube length?

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    come on, really?
    one is the measured length of the actual top tube itself, the other is measured where it would be if it was truly horizontal.
    i'll leave you to figure out which is whic

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw286 View Post
    come on, really?
    one is the measured length of the actual top tube itself, the other is measured where it would be if it was truly horizontal.
    i'll leave you to figure out which is whic
    Got it. Sorry, wasn't exactly sure.. Thanks

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