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Old 01-25-09, 10:16 PM   #1
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Panaracer T-Serv tires

Wow I love these. I've ridden so many puncture resistant tires, Vittoria, Bontrager, Contis and Michelins. I finally got hip to these. I bought them in 35mm wide for my winter bike just to push the envelope and see how the bike would ride. I replaced Vittoria Randoneurs with the Tservs and they are much lighter. The bike rolls faster now too. They roll over anything, no problem. Not expensive either.
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Old 01-25-09, 10:38 PM   #2
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better than gatorskins for the money?
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Old 01-25-09, 10:43 PM   #3
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Different than gatorskins: 1) softer ride: not so jarring and hard. 2)comes in larger widths than 28mm 3)less expensive (except if u buy from PBK) than gators

...but still they are reviewed to be very puncture resistant, i'll find out on that with time.
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Old 01-25-09, 10:46 PM   #4
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My REI dividend is going towards a set of these. They're great tires.
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Old 01-25-09, 11:23 PM   #5
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REI has them in size 32s for $37. I was there today.
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Old 01-25-09, 11:29 PM   #6
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i'd try em in 28c in the rear, for sure. i also want to try rando's though, more
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I like my pasela tg's
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Ive got around 1500 miles on a pair, got a flat on the rear today, not sure if I like them or not. Second flat in 4 weeks. Definitely better after they are broken in, they squeal pretty loud when new when you skid. Decent grip in the wet/snow/slush crap so far this winter, they do seem pretty durable too. Better than the gatorskins I had before these. I shredded the gatorskins pretty quick and they never really did ride all that great, grippy in the dry, slippery in the wet and not too durable. For the money here lately I think in the last 4 or 5 sets of tires Ive used the el cheapo zaffiro's from the LBS for $16 each have been surprisingly good for the $$. At that price I don't care if I kill the rear in 4-5 weeks.
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i'd try em in 28c in the rear, for sure. i also want to try rando's though, more
im lovin my randos in 28c, im sure you wont be disappointed.
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I have heard from a few people that used to messenger years ago that T-Servs were the tyre of choice, back in the day. As much as I like Randos (Ill run them front and rear in the winter) they dont roll very well, and are on the heavy side, but are awesome at just getting around town.

I dont think that any shops in the Bay Area stock T-Servs, so Im going to order a pair from Universal Cycles once my current Vittoria's run down on my only running bike, they are pretty cheap. I think Im going to try one of these in the front (T-Serv Protex)



and one of these in the rear (T-Serv Messenger)

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I have been using them for about 3 years now. I use them in 28's. At first I had them in both the front and rear, but the rear held up so long (I skip mostly and occasionally skid) that when I need to replace it, I just put the front in the rear. It am still using it now, but will probably need to replace it soon. I will be putting another one of these on it. They are great tires.
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I started out on Panaracer T-servs and I still like them.

They handle well and they tolerate road debris better than most.

They weigh a little too much for my tastes, but I could see where a professional messenger would like them for their toughness.

I presently ride with Schwalbe Ultremos front and rear, and although they don't get flats, they get a lot of small tread cuts.

I also like to ride with a Conti 4 Seasons in front and a Conti Gatorskin in back.

I would feel well served by any one of the three sets of tires.
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What is a good tire size for skidding? Does it matter? I'm gonna have to get a new rear tire soon, and I dunno if I should stick to the current 700x23...
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its a white night in philadelphia, and my friends tservs reign supreme over my gatorskins in the crud.
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I have TServs on my Rob Roy and have nothing bad to say about them. They are cheap, they are incredibly durable. The ride quality is plush. They still grip great on slushy roads. It's everything one could ever want in a commuter tire.
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In my experience, the T-serv tires are basically Pasela Tourguard with beefier sidewalls (the Paselas have paper thin sidewalls and are prone to cuts compared to Marathons, Gatorskins, etc). They've also gone from Aramid to Protex for the puncture strip. Comparable materials for flat protection.

That said, the Pasela Tourguards are lighter and ride a bit better than the T serv. So if you're in an area with a lot of glass and debris, you may prefer the T serv so you don't get as many sidewall cuts. Otherwise, the Pasela Tourguard are plenty flat resistant and have the same tread/texture.

I don't think Panaracer makes the T serv Messenger anymore; they changed the tread a bit and now it's the T serv Protex, although universalcycles still have Messenger tires left over.
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so.. people have complained that the rando's don't roll as well as others? explain?

t-serv>randos>gators ???
t-serv, lightest of the 3?

durability i would expect the gatorskins to reign supreme. could be wrong though.
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